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Old May 10th, 2019, 01:16 PM #1
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Wachowski Sisters Working On "Matrix 4"

In Hollywood, sequels, remakes, and reboots of big franchises have always been big business, and over the years, there’s been a lot of chatter about the potential comeback of one big property: The Matrix. A new report throws a bit more fuel on that particular fire, as John Wick: Chapter 3 director Chad Stahelski says the Wachowski siblings are working on a new installment in the series.

Rumors of a reboot or continuation of the franchise have circled for a couple of years. In 2017, The Hollywood Reporter suggested that Warner Bros. was working on a reboot of some sort, with Michael B. Jordan (Black Panther) potentially attached and Zak Penn (Ready Player One) tapped to write. Notably, that report indicated that the Wachowskis weren’t attached to the project.

Speaking to Yahoo! Movies, Stahelski suggests that not only is a Matrix film in the works, but that the Wachowskis are involved and that it would be a continuation of the original three films. (Clearly, someone read my former colleague Kwame Opam’s take that they should expand the world, rather than remake it from scratch.) Stahelski said:

I’m super happy that the Wachowskis are not just doing a Matrix, but they’re expanding what we all loved, and if it’s anywhere near the level of what they’ve already done, it wouldn’t take more than a call to go, ‘Hey, we want you to be a stunt guy’ and I would probably go and get hit by a car.

A representative for Stahelski told The Verge that the quote is “inaccurate” and that he did not say that the Wachowskis are doing another installment, but that “his comments were talking about if they were, he’d love to be a part of it.”

Whether or not the statement is accurate, it’s obviously, the type of situation to approach with a salt shaker at the ready: directors and actors say things all the time while speaking with the press, and Stahelski does hedge a bit, noting that he’s not sure whether Lana Wachowski will be involved as a director. There have been rumors that the sisters will be retiring after they sold their production office in Chicago last year.

The original Matrix debuted in theaters 20 years ago, and the Wachowskis followed up with a pair of sequels, The Matrix: Reloaded and The Matrix: Revolutions, to mixed reviews. They also oversaw a series of comics; a video game, The Matrix Online, which was set in the aftermath of Revolutions; and The Animatrix, a series of animated shorts set in the Matrix universe. Revolutions certainly leaves open the possibility of more stories as the war between humanity and machines came to a close with the entire Matrix getting a reboot. The Oracle and Architect’s final scene shows that there’s still some tension, but the peace will last “as long as it can.”

Presumably, any sequel or tie-in could explore the nature of the post-Revolution world and those tensions between humanity and the machines. Or it could deal with the Matrix breaking down and what post-Matrix life looks like. Certainly, having the Wachowskis return to direct or oversee that reboot would be preferable, given how they’ve directed and conceptualized the philosophy and world.

But the original creators aren’t necessarily a requirement for any continuation. Disney’s reboot of the Star Wars franchise went forward without the explicit help of George Lucas, whose summaries of a post-Return of the Jedi trilogy were essentially tossed out in favor of J.J. Abrams’ vision for the future of the franchise. But The Matrix has always had the Wachowskis’ special brand imprinted on its world, so it’s hard to see how any future of the franchise wouldn’t involve them.
https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/10/1...d-continuation
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Old May 10th, 2019, 01:53 PM #2
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I'm always up for more of The Matrix. If this becomes more than just rumoured talk, like it has been before, that will be cool. I do remember some of the last things that I heard was talk of another trilogy.
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Old May 10th, 2019, 01:55 PM #3
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Can we please not?

Anything that was revolutionary has been done to death in the years since, both in story and in visual technology. Even the sequels themselves lost steam when people realized they needed more meat than what was being offered to them.
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Old May 10th, 2019, 02:30 PM #4
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Hope so. the ending of three was bad.
Hope Keanu and trinity's actress comes back in some form

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Anything that was revolutionary has been done to death in the years since, both in story and in visual technology. Even the sequels themselves lost steam when people realized they needed more meat than what was being offered to them.
To be fair all the revolutionary stuff was also the stuff they copied from other sources mixed in with one camera trick so dated and obsolete it's considered parody to even use it anymore.

They really should focus on giving us Speed Racer 2 instead.
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Old May 10th, 2019, 04:35 PM #6
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If it gives us an ending better than Revolutions, I'm all for it. Although, to be honest, I'd be seeing for the fight choreography more than anything else. Neo vs. the army of Smiths is still one of my favorite fight scenes.
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Old May 10th, 2019, 04:43 PM #7
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Initially hated the idea, but I think there is a lot of room for good stories. The trilogy become boring in the sequels when Neo had godlike powers and the plot became a disaster, but there is an interesting world to be explored.

That being said, I fully predict it to be uninspiring, these two haven't done anything of note in years.
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Eh.

Thing is, they're not going to revive the franchise just for ONE movie.

Unless it bombs, of course. But obviously any studio will want a three-picture deal to capitalise on success if it goes well. It's simply just not good business to spend the money bringing this franchise back from the dead, dusting it off, then burying it again straight away.
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Initially hated the idea, but I think there is a lot of room for good stories. The trilogy become boring in the sequels when Neo had godlike powers and the plot became a disaster, but there is an interesting world to be explored.
Which is the reason that I personally would have preferred something closer to "The Animatrix" rather than a new full-length entry or trilogy. Smaller stories following largely unconnected threads that give a further glimpse into the setting without having to try to recapture the magic of the first movie or getting too awkward like parts of the other two.
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Which is the reason that I personally would have preferred something closer to "The Animatrix" rather than a new full-length entry or trilogy. Smaller stories following largely unconnected threads that give a further glimpse into the setting without having to try to recapture the magic of the first movie or getting too awkward like parts of the other two.
This seems like a reasonable approach, and would actually be a ton of fun. Really, there are a lot of clever creative things to do in the setting. But after rewatching the original this week, it actually does stand so well on it's own.
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Old May 10th, 2019, 05:22 PM #11
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Can't we just adapt more of Philip K Dick's work instead?
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Given the techonology today for deaging people and how some of the revolutionnary technique the sisters use in their Matrix has improved, I would like to see a sequel after all the end of Matrix 3 was enough open to let people go wild with a bunch of theories.
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The first Matrix film was the best of all. Second and third films were terrible. No need to make a sequel. Ugh.
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The first Matrix film was the best of all. Second and third films were terrible. No need to make a sequel. Ugh.
They were terrible because of all the bullshit they did with it. You needed to play the game, watch Animatrix and this and that to get the full story. That is just bad storytelling. Those things should enrich and not be required to make things make sense.
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They were terrible because of all the bullshit they did with it. You needed to play the game, watch Animatrix and this and that to get the full story. That is just bad storytelling. Those things should enrich and not be required to make things make sense.
It's just that the Wachowski sisters planned some sort of proto cinematic universe
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This might have been fake news

https://www.slashfilm.com/the-matrix...had-stahelski/
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And now the world makes sense again.
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Who's asking for another movie? The same peeps who asked for a Hellboy remake?
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I'm kind of optimistic regarding this news.
As much as I didn't care too much about sequels, I always believed that Matrix world/universe are broad and big enough to tell a decent stories, so it's kind of nice that it's getting another life.

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Please don't make light of that.

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