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Old May 17th, 2019, 01:37 PM #3741
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Yeah, the movie is confusing. The "real world" is the one where Kamen Riders were only a TV show, yet Ancient Kuuga existed and everything was supposed to happen the same day the first episode happened? Also removing Riders from history apparently does nothing, because those who were aware of that would wake up in their regular world anyway?

Also Hibiki suddenly has a Rider Kick.
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Old May 17th, 2019, 02:43 PM #3742
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Yeah, the movie is confusing. The "real world" is the one where Kamen Riders were only a TV show, yet Ancient Kuuga existed and everything was supposed to happen the same day the first episode happened? Also removing Riders from history apparently does nothing, because those who were aware of that would wake up in their regular world anyway?
The Riders were erased alongside Kuuga, but still existed as fiction due to Shingo being a singularity point. That's what the "real world" was. It was an altered history, not actually the correct history.

At the end, when the villain is stopped, the Another Kuuga Watch destroyed, and Shingo is sent back to the past, the world is restored to normal, which is why you get Sento and Sogo talking about how they still exist in the world and such in the final scene.

Shingo being taken from before Kuuga's debut also becomes a plot point later since he had never actually seen the Heisei Riders, the villain also could fuse with him in a last attempt to erase the Riders.

Also Hibiki suddenly has a Rider Kick.
He has had one since All Riders vs Dai-Shocker, and it even was the same purple flames kick shown here, in spite of him just doing it in the background there.

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Old May 17th, 2019, 06:15 PM #3743
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I hope that Yuri Aso's cameo isn't cut in favor of Woz Ginga's debut.

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Old May 17th, 2019, 08:30 PM #3744
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Onto the episode: it seems the thematic connection between the Another Rider and the original version is being wrongfully blamed for something, but overcoming it and rising to power. The execution is really different, though, and it's highlighted by the Arms Monsters being used as puppets, something that was done by Dark Kiva in 1986, but contrasts with Sougo's rule over Woz, voluntary on Woz's end. The use of Kiva's music is beautiful, but done differently here.

Not much to say about Ginga, as he came from out of nowhere (or out of the sky, to be technical instead of figurative). Probably another rogue factor to oppose the Time Jackers as well as the Riders, something specialized in with the writer for the original show.
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Old May 17th, 2019, 09:06 PM #3745
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I wonder if the Den-O ridewatch episode will use the Singletary Point gimmick to explain the other riders that timelines got altered (Build, Gaim, OOO, Faiz, edt) get fixed.

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He has had one since All Riders vs Dai-Shocker, and it even was the same purple flames kick shown here, in spite of him just doing it in the background there.
He also has done a Rider kick in his show too. It was just not a finisher there. He does it when he saves Asumu from the giant spider in 1st or second episode.

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Old May 17th, 2019, 09:18 PM #3746
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I hope that Yuri Aso's cameo isn't cut in favor of Woz Ginga's debut.
It wasn't cut, they used it in the preview for the episode.
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Old May 17th, 2019, 10:07 PM #3747
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It wasn't cut, they used it in the preview for the episode.
Huh. Thatís odd I didnít see it

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Old May 17th, 2019, 10:36 PM #3748
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There's a different version of the preview that has Yuri in it
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Old May 17th, 2019, 11:30 PM #3749
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There's a different version of the preview that has Yuri in it
Correct.

It was pitching both episodes, not just the conclusion.
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Old May 17th, 2019, 11:49 PM #3750
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I hope Ginga will be still appeared after Kiva Tribute Episodes because his fully origin (his homeland planet, his true identity, etc) is still unknown....

Also, his transformation chants ("Gin-gin-gira-gira-Galaxy! Uchū no kanata no Fantasy! Ginga!") are not heard in Episode 35. Probably this transformation chants will be used when his identity is revealed....
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Old May 18th, 2019, 12:26 AM #3751
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Zi-O movie filming. Looks a special status time jacker with the ziku driver. He looks like Spada from Kyuranger
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Old May 18th, 2019, 01:31 AM #3752
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i dont see the resemblance
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Old May 18th, 2019, 01:44 AM #3753
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I don't think Yuri's actress is playing Yuri this time. They already posted on the official site to "pay attention to what role she's in", which suggests it may not be Yuri but that she will still appear. Since the trailer for both Kiva eps showed her

stroking Sougo's face underneath a cherry blossom tree, I think she's his real "first love", it's not Yuko
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Old May 18th, 2019, 01:44 AM #3754
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Zi-O movie filming. Looks a special status time jacker with the ziku driver. He looks like Spada from Kyuranger
https://www.facebook.com/70288454007...219301&sfns=mo
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Kamen Rider Ancient, Kamen Rider Singular and Kamen Rider Millennium
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Old May 18th, 2019, 02:02 AM #3755
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Also Hibiki suddenly has a Rider Kick.
I was more impressed by Kabuto having a flying Rider Kick.

Unless I've also missed that in another movie somewhere.
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Old May 18th, 2019, 02:49 AM #3756
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I don't think Yuri's actress is playing Yuri this time. They already posted on the official site to "pay attention to what role she's in", which suggests it may not be Yuri but that she will still appear. Since the trailer for both Kiva eps showed her

stroking Sougo's face underneath a cherry blossom tree, I think she's his real "first love", it's not Yuko
This doesn't seem to make sense, given the timeline;
Sougo didn't decide to be a king until, IIRC, 2009 - coincidentally the year Decade was on - and a year before, Yuri was dead for a while already. So unless they didn't even pay attention, or in fact this is not Yuri, just the same actress...

Also it is implied that it's Jiro that sees Sougo as worthy of Kiva powers.
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Old May 18th, 2019, 03:30 AM #3757
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He also has done a Rider kick in his show too. It was just not a finisher there. He does it when he saves Asumu from the giant spider in 1st or second episode.
He does a generic jump quick there though. It had no effects or special motion. It was just a reference to a Rider Kick.

Kabuto does a standard Rider Kick in his Hyper form, but I can't remember if he ever did it in base in his own show. Outside of the series, he has done it alongside everyone else in All Riders vs Dai-Shocker and also did it in Kamen Rider Taisen.

Kagami does a standard Rider Kick in the finale though in order to match Hyper Kabuto for a Double Rider Kick, so I'd guess it's just a matter of movement, rather than being forced by the suit to do their usual motions.

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Old May 18th, 2019, 04:04 AM #3758
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AtoMan wrote: View Post

This doesn't seem to make sense, given the timeline;
Sougo didn't decide to be a king until, IIRC, 2009 - coincidentally the year Decade was on - and a year before, Yuri was dead for a while already. So unless they didn't even pay attention, or in fact this is not Yuri, just the same actress...

Also it is implied that it's Jiro that sees Sougo as worthy of Kiva powers.
Yes, that's what I meant - that she's not playing Yuri, but is playing the girl Sougo met in the past who would now be an adult in her late 20s. Since the official site drew attention to it, it seems they have not cut her appearance
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Old May 18th, 2019, 04:54 AM #3759
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The rumor is that the new riderís name is

Kamen Rider Ignite
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Old May 18th, 2019, 06:13 AM #3760
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Something I noticed in the set picture is that
the man with the driver is being followed by people with the same clothes as Woz, so this guy probably is a general of Oma-Zi-O


I saw this set picture, I don't know if this was posted before:
https://m.facebook.com/Fcmaskriderth...48&__tn__=EH-R

I don't know which another rider is, or if it is an another rider but it seems this is from the movie.
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