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Old March 4th, 2019, 12:03 AM #101
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We all know how that storyline plays out. Jason(/Robin) gets Barbara(/Batgirl) to agree to what is essentially a pity date which goes about as well as a pity date can go, especially considering the age-gap) but it doesn't blossom into a lasting relationship.

Then before that can be re-examined Jason gets killed and Barbara gets injured.
Jason is Red Hood, unless you mean an alternate universe.
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I was referring to the pre-New 52 universe, which I guess is alternate now, but thinking harder I guess Barbara had basically stopped being Batgirl before Jason put on the Robin costume.

But are you really going to tell me that badgering her into a pity date is not what he would do?

Now Jason/Barbara after he comes back from the dead? Yeah, that would be a total mess.
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I was referring to the pre-New 52 universe, which I guess is alternate now, but thinking harder I guess Barbara had basically stopped being Batgirl before Jason put on the Robin costume.

But are you really going to tell me that badgering her into a pity date is not what he would do?

Now Jason/Barbara after he comes back from the dead? Yeah, that would be a total mess.
Oh yes, Robin Jason would. He would do that to Donna too.

And it would be a mess for the fact that Babs would constantly comparing Jay to Dick, even if unintentionally. Its too predicable. I ship Jason with a few women in the DCU, Babs isn't one of them
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I could see it
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I'm not seeing the opportunity for awkwardness.
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I'm not seeing the opportunity for awkwardness.
Are you being sarcastic or can you not see that?
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OK, so for pretty much the entire time Linda Danvers was active Kara was gone from the universe and the heroes knew it, and after Kara came back Conner was with Cassie anyway. So who's going to mistake them anyway, and why should they care that Linda poses a slight resemblance to a girl Conner may or may not be at most 'not even illegal levels of related to' depending on which retcon you're in?

While I can see Linda feeling slightly awkward at being mistaken for Kara, whether or not that happens is irrespective of whether she's dating Conner, and I don't see either of them putting enough stock in it to care enough to let what is at most a one-minute clarification (if it's someone whose opinion actually matters to them for some reason) mess up their relationship.
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First off, sorry if this counts as a double post - in my defence it's been the better part of two months since the last post and this is the correct thread for this.

So Virus, a while back we (and others) were managing to ship pretty much every permutation of Young Justice over in I think the last comic thread, but I think I've found one we might have missed. Describing it as best I can, in an early issue the team went camping while Red Tornado conducted the parents' meetings, which caused Helena Sandsmark and Bonnie King moderate annoyance when they discovered their daughters were out camping with boys, so they had Red Tornado fly them over there to express their displeasure, discovered they were sleeping in a girls' tent and left quite satisfied until morning.

However, if you look at the panel where they were looking at their daughters sleeping, Cissie appears to be fondling Cassie while Cassie held the offending hand in place. How did we miss that? In fact how did they miss that?

I'm sure I'm reading way too much into it and it probably wasn't meant to be fondling - indeed I doubt I would've seen it as such but for spending as much time in these threads as I have, not least because it was a mere 1 issue earlier that they'd each been jealous of the other and in Cassie's case that jealousy was because of the affection Cissie was receiving from Conner* who she was openly crushing on. But it does surprise me that there's so little wind in that ship's sails as a whole - after an admittedly quick check I found an entire one fanfic (though it's hard to search through so there may be more - I'm not even sure in the Young Justice entry on FFN has a character select and if does then nobody's used it - and it's inundated with entries for the cartoon series despite that being its own category). By comparison, referencing one of those headcanon cards you like so much, I found three Bart/Cassandra Cain fics (though they may have been by the same person, I forgot to check).

*Cissie/Conner is another largely ignored possibility but as I can't see that beyond minor flirting that doesn't exactly bother me.

And can we agree that while they'd be terrible to ship together seriously, a humorous crackfic taking a crack at Helena/Bonnie would be hilarious?

Also, I'd forgotten just how much Tim and Conner were standing in as essentially Bart's parents back then. I may not be much of a Tim/Conner shipper (unless Cassie's in with them) but I can understand why people do.

The big question though - what to do about Secret? (And Empress I guess but while I've technically got something with her I don't know her nearly well enough to judge who she'd be good with.)

I mean, I know Secret has a thing for Robin but it's equally clear that Tim isn't interested and I can't think of who'd be good for her. Solstice perhaps (except I don't think she was even a glint in DC's eye when Peter David was writing Secret)? No, they'd wallow in self pity until it consumed them (or was that Skitter? I keep getting them muddled up). Freddie Freeman perhaps - I think he'd have some luck with getting through to her and helping her move past things, possibly?
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The big question though - what to do about Secret? (And Empress I guess but while I've technically got something with her I don't know her nearly well enough to judge who she'd be good with.)

I mean, I know Secret has a thing for Robin but it's equally clear that Tim isn't interested and I can't think of who'd be good for her. Solstice perhaps (except I don't think she was even a glint in DC's eye when Peter David was writing Secret)? No, they'd wallow in self pity until it consumed them (or was that Skitter? I keep getting them muddled up). Freddie Freeman perhaps - I think he'd have some luck with getting through to her and helping her move past things, possibly?
Umm, possibly a magic user? Zachary Zatara maybe?
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Umm, possibly a magic user? Zachary Zatara maybe?
A magic user's not an inherently bad idea but I fear she and Zachary Zatara would feed each others issues rather than help with them.
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A magic user's not an inherently bad idea but I fear she and Zachary Zatara would feed each others issues rather than help with them.
I don't know. I found Secret to be quite boring of a character. Heck, she had only one brief appearance after YJ ended. Arrowette got two, so did Empress

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I don't know. I found Secret to be quite boring of a character. Heck, she had only one brief appearance after YJ ended. Arrowette got two, so did Empress
Young Justice pretty much wrapped her up though. Not all characters are meant to last forever but that doesn't make them bad. And doesn't change whether or not she'd be good in a relationship with Zatara.

Arrowette had two, but her story didn't really advance beyond 'Cissie doesn't enjoy being Arrowette' - in that sense she was the flatter one. (Also, Bonnie's comment about 'Merlin Toys gets 8 Superboys, 8 Robins, 8 Impulses and 1 Arrowette turned out to be valid).

Can we ship Cissie with anyone other than Cassie? I guess Conner based on when they met in Young Justice (can't speak for if they'd met before) but that didn't last long and I'm not even sure she noticed. Bart might be possible but those two had a 'just friends' vibe to me, but that might just be because Bart already had a girl in his solo back then (what happened to her - did she get killed, fall out with him or did DC just forget about her?). Perhaps she could bond with a fellow archer over her hobby, except the only one I can think of in her age range is Mia and Mia in her own most famous words is 'all about the condoms' - I don't see her going for a girl. Of course I don't know that side of the DC universe very well so there could be others.

And since you've brought her up, I wasn't going to risk this one based on a meagre understanding but - Empress? Actually I guess she and Cissie could work. Oh I don't know.
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Young Justice pretty much wrapped her up though. Not all characters are meant to last forever but that doesn't make them bad. And doesn't change whether or not she'd be good in a relationship with Zatara.

Arrowette had two, but her story didn't really advance beyond 'Cissie doesn't enjoy being Arrowette' - in that sense she was the flatter one. (Also, Bonnie's comment about 'Merlin Toys gets 8 Superboys, 8 Robins, 8 Impulses and 1 Arrowette turned out to be valid).

Can we ship Cissie with anyone other than Cassie? I guess Conner based on when they met in Young Justice (can't speak for if they'd met before) but that didn't last long and I'm not even sure she noticed. Bart might be possible but those two had a 'just friends' vibe to me, but that might just be because Bart already had a girl in his solo back then (what happened to her - did she get killed, fall out with him or did DC just forget about her?). Perhaps she could bond with a fellow archer over her hobby, except the only one I can think of in her age range is Mia and Mia in her own most famous words is 'all about the condoms' - I don't see her going for a girl. Of course I don't know that side of the DC universe very well so there could be others.

And since you've brought her up, I wasn't going to risk this one based on a meagre understanding but - Empress? Actually I guess she and Cissie could work. Oh I don't know.
All I pointed out was how I viewed Greta in context of shipping. I found her dull as a character, so I don't really know who I'd ship her with. Not even in a Crack Ship way. And for Cissie, usually I just ship her with Bart, but then again she isn't the person I ship him with the most.
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