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Old November 20th, 2015, 06:13 PM #21
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Hold a second. GT has its problem. But should not be comparable to the likes of the Dragon Evolution. Yikes. That movie is truly an abomination of the highest order.




That is almost as bad as people comparing Overdrive to Samurai or MegaForce<_<
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Old November 20th, 2015, 06:15 PM #22
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Problem was that Justin Chatwin was terrible choice to play one of the most iconic anime character; then again, it could have been worse... like Shia LaBeouf or Zac Efron.
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DragonBuckler7 wrote: View Post

I think Evolution suffered from being "Dragon Ball" instead of "Dragon Ball Z."
Evolution was nothing like Dragon Ball, though.

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How did Toriyama allowed and approved him to be in charge is beyond me.
He reluctantly went along with it because the crew seemed so positive about the script. Toriyama himself wasn't sure about the script and after seeing the finished product really...was not pleased. It's why he's been so involved in the last two animated films.
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Evolution was nothing like Dragon Ball, though.



He reluctantly went along with it because the crew seemed so positive about the script. Toriyama himself wasn't sure about the script and after seeing the finished product really...was not pleased. It's why he's been so involved in the last two animated films.

Yes it was. Goku was raised by Gohan, who had a Nyoiboi\Power Pole. Piccolo was a Ancient evil. Mai was there and she had Oolong and Pu-erh's shapeshifting powers. Goku is a alien monkey man.
Chi-Chi, Bulma, Roshi, and Yamucha was there. Their was 7 Dragon Balls and Shen Long AND Piccolo could create minons and had a ship! Plus Capsule Corp was in the movie. This is all Dragon Ball and Z. How was it nothing like "Dragon Ball?"
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Old November 20th, 2015, 07:37 PM #25
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Yeah. All the elements of Dragonball were there. I rented the dvd once, I thought it wasn't a bad kid's martial arts flick.
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Old November 20th, 2015, 07:46 PM #26
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You probably aware of this but there was a Chinese/Taiwanese movie production based on Dragon Ball in 1989 called : Dragon Ball: The Magic Begins.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon...e_Magic_Begins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LIf6PJ20ms

Its pretty great only if you watch think of a B movie.
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Old November 20th, 2015, 08:31 PM #27
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I'm still wondering where I'm gonna find my subs for this show, since my subs of choice for a C&D
DragonTeam, who was originally subbing it but fell behind and when Over8000 took over it took the pressure odf their backs to continue, is going to start subbing the current episodes again starting this week.
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And to add to that... DragonTeam's subs are the best honestly.
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I just finished Season 7 of DBZ (blu-ray). I'm glad and surprised it's over so quickly. At only 25 episodes, it's the shortest of the DBZ "seasons", hence the surprise it's over. I'm glad it's over because it didn't really go anywhere and it wasted a lot of time, even by DB standards. 20% of it was the Other World Tournament, which I mentioned towards the end of the last thread bored me a bit. The next 20% was Gohan in High School/Great Saiyaman... more yawn. Even the start of the 25th World Tournament was more boring filler ("oh boy, a punching contest to decide who gets a spot!" and "oh boy, an entire episode dedicated to choosing the fighting pairs! Yippie!").

By the time Season 7 started to get good (Goten vs Trunks and the actual Tournament), it was over. Such a wasted season. Oh well, on to Season 8 soon....
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The thing is... and I'll say this till I'm blue in the face... it was totally the script.

The actors were fine. James as Piccolo was pure gold and about the only thing I love about the move... Emmy was a great Bulma, Justin was fine as Goku... they just need to make him less Gohan. Chow was a wonderful Roshi, Jamie fit Chi Chi... etc, etc... that script was just dog shit.

I even love the outfits, Shenlong not talking was fine, the Kamehameha was beautiful... but whoever allowed that script to be passed needed to be fired.
Agreed 100%. It's pretty funny that Emmy and Justin went on to star in Shameless not too long after the movie.
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Yes it was. Goku was raised by Gohan, who had a Nyoiboi\Power Pole. Piccolo was a Ancient evil. Mai was there and she had Oolong and Pu-erh's shapeshifting powers. Goku is a alien monkey man.
Chi-Chi, Bulma, Roshi, and Yamucha was there. Their was 7 Dragon Balls and Shen Long AND Piccolo could create minons and had a ship! Plus Capsule Corp was in the movie. This is all Dragon Ball and Z. How was it nothing like "Dragon Ball?"
By completely lacking an understanding of what makes Dragon Ball interesting. It replaced Toriyama's perverse personality with generic, audience-safe story and character elements that don't even seem to reflect the personalities of the production crew let alone the charm of the work it is adapting. It's as bad as any fan film has been since, completely missing the relative wealth of dimension that franchise has.
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Funny thing was that Evolution was the only movie my relatives complained about in ethnicity changing. Spawn, Daredevil, Batman, they didn't mind. But their big complaint was, "They made Goku a white guy!" Grant, they were small and didn't know who Harvey Dent was in 1990 and the change in Spawn tends to be one that no one cared about, but still...
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Funny thing was that Evolution was the only movie my relatives complained about in ethnicity changing. Spawn, Daredevil, Batman, they didn't mind. But their big complaint was, "They made Goku a white guy!" Grant, they were small and didn't know who Harvey Dent was in 1990 and the change in Spawn tends to be one that no one cared about, but still...
Well... Goku's an alien...
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Well... Goku's an alien...
Yeah I hate to say it but the whitwash card doesn't work for Dragonball given that I'm pretty sure that (outside of a few characters) no one in the series is even Asian to begin with.
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Funny thing was that Evolution was the only movie my relatives complained about in ethnicity changing. Spawn, Daredevil, Batman, they didn't mind. But their big complaint was, "They made Goku a white guy!" Grant, they were small and didn't know who Harvey Dent was in 1990 and the change in Spawn tends to be one that no one cared about, but still...
To be fair, Goku's ethnicity was never made clear. Didn't Toriyama say that Saiyans were more on the Caucasian and Latino side?
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Like I said, my cousins were just being dumb about that. Some fans can be odd about little things. Heck, thing that made me laugh a few years back on the Kanzenshuu forum was a thread about the "Best looking guys in the series". Since it's 90% male apparently, most of the responses started, "Umm... I'm not into men or anything, but..." before saying their answer.
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To be fair, Goku's ethnicity was never made clear. Didn't Toriyama say that Saiyans were more on the Caucasian and Latino side?
Wait, what?
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Old November 21st, 2015, 10:15 AM #38
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Honestly, I'd rather watch Evolution than the Broly sequels.
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Lord Jonathan Tzachor wrote: View Post

To be fair, Goku's ethnicity was never made clear. Didn't Toriyama say that Saiyans were more on the Caucasian and Latino side?
No interview I can recall ever attributed ethnicities to any character.
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Old November 21st, 2015, 10:38 AM #40
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So the recent chapter introduced the concept of alternate universes. And planet sized dragonballs that can grant infinite wishes. And the idea of seeing more Saiyans.
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