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Old July 21st, 2017, 08:23 AM #41
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The fact that the show has John Wesley Shipp and Amanda Pays as Christina McGee means that this will probably happen sooner than later.
They have already established that the 90s show is an alternate universe to the new show in one of the travels to Earth 2. Plus if its true that Shipp is more than willing to revisit and get back into the suit...
And it would not be hard whatsoever to make work. A simple side comment from 2014 Barry saying something like "Great! I am going to look way to much like my dad when I get older" is enough to explain away why Shipp Barry looks like Jay and Gustin Barry's Dad.
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Old July 22nd, 2017, 06:07 PM #42
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So who's the samurai with the helluva sword? Also really hope we get to see Cisco step out into being a hero more.
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So who's the samurai with the helluva sword?
Based on the colors, my guess would be Silent Samurai.

If so, MAJOR upgrade design-wise.
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Old July 23rd, 2017, 03:47 AM #45
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Grant Gustin admits season 3 was too dark.

Source: http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/the-fla...on-3-too-dark/
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Old July 23rd, 2017, 04:56 AM #46
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The Thinker and his daughter, The Mechanic have been cast. And Danny "Machete" Trejo will be playing Gypsy's father.

http://deadline.com/2017/07/the-flas...3/amp/?ref=yfp
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Hahaha, Danny Trejo as Gypsy's dad, damn Cisco is totally in for it it'll be great!

I don't know, for me I didn't think S3 was too dark exactly. I like when there's stakes involved, and even though Flash is meant to have a more positive beat I don't think it's bad for him to be serious. My main issues were that it was another speedster villain and it took the entire season to reveal his identity which bugged me, especially when it was revealed. They tried to cram to false redemption story in at the end when that could've been something played around with earlier in the season. I don't know, I just wish they had revealed his identity sooner and got to play with it instead of constantly going on about not knowing who he was. Oh, and they don't seem to know how to handle multiple heroes very well, or at least multiple speedsters. There was almost always some excuse for Wally to be out of commission or busy elsewhere and he rarely fought we Barry which is a shame. I mean I get budget restrictions but...eh.
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Just don't bring back Barry in the first episode. Season Finales should have lasting consequences that aren't erased at the beginning of the next season.
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Old July 23rd, 2017, 09:25 AM #49
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Yeah, I hope that Flash we see in the trailer is
actually Wally in red costume, as we've seen in the leaked filming photos. That said, we probably WILL see Barry, just not out of Speedforce yet.
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Yeah, I hope that Flash we see in the trailer is
actually Wally in red costume, as we've seen in the leaked filming photos. That said, we probably WILL see Barry, just not out of Speedforce yet.
My theory is

The episode is titled "The Flash Reborn" because Wally is barely going to take on The Flash name. In the trailer he's still yellow suited, while we saw leaked photos of him red suited. This Samurai comes looking for The Flash, they attempt to rescue Barry and fail. Iris says we have a Flash and looks over at the red costume. Wally puts it on and moves from Kid Flash to The Flash. Barry will make an appearance during the failed rescue attempt but Wally will be our Flash at the end of the episode


Keep in mind I'm being extremely hopeful
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TyrannoRanger wrote: View Post

My theory is

The episode is titled "The Flash Reborn" because Wally is barely going to take on The Flash name. In the trailer he's still yellow suited, while we saw leaked photos of him red suited. This Samurai comes looking for The Flash, they attempt to rescue Barry and fail. Iris says we have a Flash and looks over at the red costume. Wally puts it on and moves from Kid Flash to The Flash. Barry will make an appearance during the failed rescue attempt but Wally will be our Flash at the end of the episode


Keep in mind I'm being extremely hopeful
That might be how it goes down, but I'm thinking that Barry will get out of the Speed Force at the end of the first episode. But they won't suddenly make him Flash again right away, because Wally will be Flash now. Barry will instead hang back and let Wally be Flash for awhile, before returning in the suit, but this time he'll be wearing the suit Future Barry wears. Wally will then get an updated suit, which will still have him as Flash, but with a different design so he looks different than Barry.
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Grant Gustin admits season 3 was too dark.

Source: http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/the-fla...on-3-too-dark/
Didnt think it was too dark, just wasnt a well handled season from a writing standpoint

I wonder if Wally will have a larger role in the crossover
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The Thinker and his daughter, The Mechanic have been cast. And Danny "Machete" Trejo will be playing Gypsy's father.

http://deadline.com/2017/07/the-flas...3/amp/?ref=yfp
Gypsy has a dad?

Guess this relationship with Cisco is really going somewhere.
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Sneak peek at the team's attempts to rescue Barry from the Speed Force

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Just started watching this on Netflix.

Got to the first episode with time travel and starting to lose interest.

This is going to be one of those shows with an extremely convoluted storyline because of time travel isn't it?

And why does it feel like every single character they've introduced is a metahuman in some regard outside of main characters?

Plus, is it ever explained why Cisco and Caitlin didn't develop powers? They were at ground zero, surely they'd have been first to get hit?
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MasterMystechRanger wrote: View Post

Just started watching this on Netflix.

Got to the first episode with time travel and starting to lose interest.

This is going to be one of those shows with an extremely convoluted storyline because of time travel isn't it?
Umm, not really.. It's been straight forward, for the most part..

Also, if you're losing interest because of time travel, you might as well lose interest in anything Flash related ever, because that's kind of part of his overall powers, other than just running fast.
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Umm, not really.. It's been straight forward, for the most part..

Also, if you're losing interest because of time travel, you might as well lose interest in anything Flash related ever, because that's kind of part of his overall powers, other than just running fast.
It was more the fact the time travel reversed everything that just happened. It creates annoying things later on, trying to remember if something actually happened or not.

Time travel in general I don't mind. It's when the time travel alters events we've already seen that bothers me.
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Sneak peek at the team's attempts to rescue Barry from the Speed Force

I (kind of) miss HR now......
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Old July 24th, 2017, 10:19 AM #59
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MasterMystechRanger wrote: View Post

It was more the fact the time travel reversed everything that just happened. It creates annoying things later on, trying to remember if something actually happened or not.

Time travel in general I don't mind. It's when the time travel alters events we've already seen that bothers me.
Time Travel without consequences is unrealistic and not fun. There are consequences. Just remember everything happens for Barry but not to those that didn't time travel. I don't want to spoil anything but just be prepared for changes when he time travels. Mostly minor changes nothing major *cough*yet*cough*. It is up to you to watch and they beat you in the face with the changes when they happen.
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It was more the fact the time travel reversed everything that just happened. It creates annoying things later on, trying to remember if something actually happened or not.

Time travel in general I don't mind. It's when the time travel alters events we've already seen that bothers me.
It's still not really hard to follow. Time travel or alters events that you see or they say it altered. If Barry goes and beats up a bad guy, then has to time travel and when facing that bad guy again instead traps him somehow, that means he never actually went toe-to-toe with him.

Not real sure where you're at, can't remember specifics from S1 and all off the top of my head so don't want to say stuff that ruins things. But if you can't just enjoy the show, and instead of wrapped up in how time travel somehow ruins it because it changes things then yeah you'd best just stop now. Time travel comes up more than once in this show, especially this last season so heads up. But it's a good show, I recommend staying with it.
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