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Old January 5th, 2019, 09:26 PM #1501
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Sorry, keep forgetting this is suppose to be just at Hogwarts pre-bathrooms, but still they'd be walking through the halls defecating. Just is completely absurd. And if this supposedly happened at Hogwarts DOES this mean the rest of the wizarding world at that time did the same thing? Or, for some nonsensical reason, did Hogwarts just somehow not accept the concept but the rest of the WW had bathrooms and chamber pots and stuff? So like the kids would leave their homes with some kind of bathroom system in place, to come to this amazing school of magic...only to find people dropping their loads whenever they felt like it. Yeah...makes complete sense.
That's the real weird part though. Even if its just that hogwarts only adapted to plumbing after muggles, it means these kids and staff just wandered around in their own waste at school but then what did they do at home? If they didn't do it at home too, wouldn't there have been some kind of adoption of the home wizarding world's bathroom equivalent? So that means all these wizard generations spent their formative school years pooping like horses, and then what, just relearned a new system at home and in the wizarding world outside that wasn't viable for Hogwarts to adopt?

Also, indoor plumbing is fairly new and even when it took off in cities, rural areas were still struggling to get working plumbing in their communities late into the 20th century even in England. How long after muggles took to plumbing did Hogwarts adopt it? Would the bathroom ghost have even had a bathroom to die in? Those paintings and ghosts at hogwarts all watched children poop the floors for centuries then, too.

Does running water just blow wizard minds?
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Old January 5th, 2019, 09:29 PM #1502
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Does running water just blow wizard minds?
You have no idea... ITS LIKE MAGIC!!
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Old January 5th, 2019, 09:38 PM #1503
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This just popped in my mind. So does this explain why Filch is a complete prick that he has to deal with all their shit?
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Old January 5th, 2019, 10:02 PM #1504
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Filch's first week at Hogwarts

Dumbledore: It's Friday, time to empty the poop tank.
Filch: I'm a squib ... maybe you could ...
Dumbledore: Say no more, "Accio bucket!", there you go.
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Old January 5th, 2019, 10:20 PM #1505
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This just popped in my mind.
I read that too quickly, and you can guess which word I misread.

But don't worry, wizards apparently know how to make that vanish!
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It's the implication wizards would just roam around defecating like horses. A little drop here, magic away, move on. Not say find a chamber pot, use an out house, even come up with some magically advanced variation of the toilet to begin with. Just drop and go. Like I would find the idea wizards invented the concept of the toilet by using a magic infused chamber pot or some kind of seat that disintegrated the waste away and muggles adopted it from them more feasible in this world they've built. The way it's said here means wizards didn't grasp the basic concept of going in the corner that even potty training children learn. Does that mean wizards were never really potty trained before either?

This bit of information makes the wizarding world's logistics, which are already shaky just to make the basic muggle stuff seem strange to them, just fall apart into a spiral of what if scenarios.
On the other hand, if you already use magic for plumbing, why on Earth would you revert to an inferior system? I mean, if they can magic up flames from their wands, why would they use Zippos?
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On the other hand, if you already use magic for plumbing, why on Earth would you revert to an inferior system? I mean, if they can magic up flames from their wands, why would they use Zippos?
Well just cause you can, doesn't necessarily mean it's always the most effective. Case in point your example of using lighters. You have a handy means of creating a little flame right there that you can carry with you wherever. It isn't dependent on your magical strength, nor on having your wand. If you get disarmed, wand busted, or are just plain exhausted but need a fire...well there ya go.

So for plumbing, while sure they can set spells to work without needing someone constantly there, I imagine it would at least need some kind of constant watch. Like lets say all the bathrooms were magical. So you'd need to magic in water for at least washing up, even if the toilets were just magical vanishing bowls that didn't require water to flush. Then, again just speculating, it'd have to either me magicked away from existence or transported to somewhere. Even if you had that set to run on its own, probably needs upkeep. And with all the other magic going around that school, likely easier to have something mundane but also totally effective. You don't really need to worry again magical upkeep, interfering with other magic, any of that.

But yeah, I'd say it comes down to just cause you can doesn't mean you should or be the most effective. They install the plumbing, probably have house elves that can keep it running unless there's a big problem one of the teachers is needed to quickly magic away or something, and then it just runs on its own and can be left without much if any thought. But who knows.
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Well I put it to you that had they not adopted muggle-style plumbing, Voldemort would never had risen to power and people wouldn’t have died.

Think about THAT.
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Well I put it to you that had they not adopted muggle-style plumbing, Voldemort would never had risen to power and people wouldn’t have died.

Think about THAT.
Cause of the Chamber? There would've just been a different way to enter it, the chamber was already there, there had to be access before the wash basin was constructed.
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Well I put it to you that had they not adopted muggle-style plumbing, Voldemort would never had risen to power and people wouldn’t have died.
So Voldemort won so many old wizarding families into his side ... by appealing to their desire to shit on the ground, whenever they felt like it, as opposed to muggle ideas of plumbing (and sanitation)?

Figures.
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Old January 9th, 2019, 06:07 AM #1511
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Well I put it to you that had they not adopted muggle-style plumbing, Voldemort would never had risen to power and people wouldn’t have died.

Think about THAT.
Well, Voldermort doesn't have a nose so he wouldn't have to deal with the unpleasant smell that probably comes along with the old system.
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Old January 9th, 2019, 07:33 AM #1512
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The only reason it's come up is that it basically became a plot hole in Chamber of Secrets. Instead of just explaining that wizards invented plumbing thousands of years ago, JK decided that Hogwarts was retrofitted at a similar time to when Muggles in Britain were fitting out plumbing.

I hope this explanation features prominently in the next movie, talking about excrement would probably be an improvement on the last one.
You would still think they would have had a more... magical?... solution than squatting in the middle of the hallway and vanishing it. Although I could totally see Dumbledore doing this.
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Old January 9th, 2019, 01:45 PM #1513
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So Voldemort won so many old wizarding families into his side ... by appealing to their desire to shit on the ground, whenever they felt like it, as opposed to muggle ideas of plumbing (and sanitation)?

Figures.
Nothing would put it past him, any dirty trick pun intended

I thought the WW invented the indoor plumbing for some reason and had it for decades before the muggles
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Well, Voldermort doesn't have a nose so he wouldn't have to deal with the unpleasant smell that probably comes along with the old system.
That was only with his new body. Original Voldemort would've had the same reaction to stench as everyone else.

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Nothing would put it past him, any dirty trick pun intended

I thought the WW invented the indoor plumbing for some reason and had it for decades before the muggles
That would've been the more sensible idea. However this is Harry Potter so 'sense' goes out the window.
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Old January 11th, 2019, 06:03 PM #1515
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And really they wouldn't have had to have "invented" it outright - Ancient Romans had fairly well developed sewerage and water management systems - I don't think Wizards being able to take those ideas a step further
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