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Old September 9th, 2013, 12:35 PM   #1
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Kamen Rider of the Past - Rider, Please.

Welcome to the latest iteration of the Kamen Rider of the Past thread. Here, we discuss every incarnation of the long-running tokusatsu franchise, Kamen Rider, up to and including the most recently concluded series.

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Here is a compiled listing of the movies and where they fall in the series.

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Kuuga:

N/A

Agito:

Project G4
Theatrical release: between 33 and 34
Continuity: out of continuity

Ryuki:

Episode Final
Theatrical release: between 28 and 29
Continuity: alternate timeline

Faiz:

Paradise Lost
Theatrical release: between 28 and 29
Continuity: alternate universe

Blade:

Missing Ace
Theatrical release: between 31 and 32
Continuity: post-series alternate ending

Hibiki:

The Seven Senki
Theatrical release: between 29 and 30
Continuity: alternate universe

Kabuto:

God Speed Love
Theatrical release: between 26 and 27
Continuity: alternate timeline

Den-O:

I'm Born!
Theatrical release: between 26 and 27
Continuity: between 25 and 28

Climax Deka
Theatrical release: post-series
Continuity: between Kiva 1 and 9

Final Countdown
Theatrical release: post-series
Continuity: after Den-O, before Decade

Onigashima Warship
Theatrical release: between Decade 14 and 15
Continuity: between Decade 15 and 19

Episode Red
Theatrical release: post-series
Continuity: after Onigashima Warship

Episode Blue
Theatrical release: post-series
Continuity: after Onigashima Warship

Episode Yellow
Theatrical release: post-series
Continuity: after Movie War 2010

Kiva:

King of the Castle in the Demon World
Theatrical release: between 27 and 28
Continuity: out of continuity

Decade:

All Riders vs Dai Shocker
Theatrical release: between 27 and 28
Continuity: between 29 and 30

Super Hero Taisen
Theatrical release: post-series
Continuity: between Fourze 20 and 31, between Go-Busters 6 and 14

W:

Movie War 2010
Theatrical release: between 13 and 14
Continuity: between 14 and 15

A to Z/The Gaia Memories of Fate
Theatrical release: between 45 and 46
Continuity: between 44 and 45

Accel
Release: post-series
Continuity: after Movie War Core

Eternal
Release: post-series
Continuity: after A to Z/The Gaia Memories of Fate

OOO:

Movie War Core
Theatrical release: between 14 and 15
Continuity: out of continuity

Let's Go Kamen Riders
Theatrical release: between 27 and 28
Continuity: out of continuity

The Shogun and the 21 Core Medals
Theatrical release: between 44 and 45
Continuity: out of continuity

Fourze:

Movie War Megamax
Theatrical release: between 13 and 14
Continuity: between 14 and 15

Everyone, it's spachuu kitoff!
Theatrical release: between 44 and 45
Continuity: between 38 and 39

Wizard:

Movie War Ultimatum
Theatrical release: between 13 and 14
Continuity: between 13 and 14

Super Hero Taisen Z
Theatrical release: between 32 and 33
Continuity: between 19 and 28

In Magic Land
Theatrical release: between 45 and 46
Continuity: between 31 and 40

Gaim:

Fateful Sengoku Movie Battle
Theatrical release: between 9 and 10
Continuity: between 9 and 10

Kamen Rider War featuring Super Sentai
Theatrical release: between 23 and 24
Continuity: after Ressha Sentai Toqger vs Kamen Rider Gaim Special

The Great Soccer Match! The Golden Fruit Cup!
Theatrical release: between 37 and 38
Continuity: between 37 and 38


"Alternate timeline/universe" means the movie's setting is drastically different from the series' setting, but they're connected through time travel or otherwise thematically.

"Out of continuity" means the movie's setting is rather similar to the series' setting, but the order of events creates a contradiction.

Feel free to fill in the blanks or give suggestions.

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Old September 9th, 2013, 01:25 PM   #2
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"Ichi, Please" would have been FAR more enjoyable.
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Old September 9th, 2013, 01:29 PM   #3
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But yeah Ataru I wouldn't watch SHT until you watch Gokaiger. It's just more fun and ridiculous that way. Especially the whole thing with Joe and Daiki acting depressed because their husbando's betrayed them.
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Old September 9th, 2013, 01:30 PM   #4
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Would an Itchy and Scratchy joke be not enjoyable?
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Old September 9th, 2013, 01:33 PM   #5
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can i start with wizard from ep 1 in here or is that to new ?
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Old September 9th, 2013, 03:01 PM   #6
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can i start with wizard from ep 1 in here or is that to new ?
Well, there's still a Wizard thread, but it's filled with talk of the most recent episodes now, since it's almost over, so I don't see why you can't discuss it here, if you're just starting.
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Old September 9th, 2013, 01:55 PM   #7
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First: yeah, I said "proper Gokaiger watch" because the way I did Gokaiger back when I first got into Sentai is not proper: find raws/subs/whatevers and watch it. Not to mention I stopped after the Go-Onger two-parter...so basically I was more watching Gokaiger for novelty while I was getting more in-depth with serious Sentai watches.

Second: surprised Wizard's here considering we have one more episode of main story left (and the two episodes transitioning into Gaim while working as a bit of an "anniversary of Heisei" considering the villain took it's name from Kuuga's stone) Honestly once this weekend rolls around, Wizard is fine for the thread I say.

Finally: Honestly I sort of owe it to myself to see OOO mostly due to wanting to finish W's story and the elements that are brought about here. Sure there are things I will have little concept of ("All Riders" mostly though most of their stuff is cameo outside a major Den-O thing) but with the connection I just found it easier. Though I don't really have any thought of doing Fourze after OOO or anytime in the near future. (when I do get back to Rider, I honestly want to try something a bit older and was seriously thinking Skyrider; a friend mentioned Black as possibilitybut I read one toku fan say that Rider stuff always gets good whenever revived and I sort of want to see the first time in the late 70s...well that and I want to find time to find and watch the Shin movie)
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Old September 9th, 2013, 03:30 PM   #8
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First: yeah, I said "proper Gokaiger watch" because the way I did Gokaiger back when I first got into Sentai is not proper: find raws/subs/whatevers and watch it. Not to mention I stopped after the Go-Onger two-parter...so basically I was more watching Gokaiger for novelty while I was getting more in-depth with serious Sentai watches.

Second: surprised Wizard's here considering we have one more episode of main story left (and the two episodes transitioning into Gaim while working as a bit of an "anniversary of Heisei" considering the villain took it's name from Kuuga's stone) Honestly once this weekend rolls around, Wizard is fine for the thread I say.

Finally: Honestly I sort of owe it to myself to see OOO mostly due to wanting to finish W's story and the elements that are brought about here. Sure there are things I will have little concept of ("All Riders" mostly though most of their stuff is cameo outside a major Den-O thing) but with the connection I just found it easier. Though I don't really have any thought of doing Fourze after OOO or anytime in the near future. (when I do get back to Rider, I honestly want to try something a bit older and was seriously thinking Skyrider; a friend mentioned Black as possibilitybut I read one toku fan say that Rider stuff always gets good whenever revived and I sort of want to see the first time in the late 70s...well that and I want to find time to find and watch the Shin movie)
OOOs is pretty good. Tacobar. Date. Cake Boss. DOKTAH MAKI! It's full of fun. I didn't really care about the enemies though. Well besides Ankh of course. The other greeeds never really interested me.
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Old September 9th, 2013, 03:58 PM   #9
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W has more connections to Fourze than to OOO in spite of the W/OOO movie (W and W related villains also appear in the OOO/Fourze movie too).
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Old September 9th, 2013, 04:15 PM   #10
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OOO is probably my favorite of the Neo-Heisei riders. And you could really just watch the W part of Movie Wars Core, the rest doesn't matter to W. Not even the final bit. I really find Core to be the weakest one despite W and OOO being two of my top 3 riders.
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Old September 9th, 2013, 05:19 PM   #11
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Yeah but I sort of just feel like I need to see OOO for some reason. Fourze probably is good but I just don't have any enthusiasm to see that just yet...or for a while. I want to see some older series (original series, Skyrider, Black) and maybe some other Heisei eras (Faiz, Hibiki, Den-O...I'd say Kiva but honestly that is another where I rather see the series before first) before I think about Fourze. It does look neat with the high school concept but the switches seem cumbersome and the suit doesn't do it for me (plus some of what people said about it meandering around a bit and rushing when the endgame approaches)
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Old May 18th, 2017, 10:51 PM   #12
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Yeah but I sort of just feel like I need to see OOO for some reason. Fourze probably is good but I just don't have any enthusiasm to see that just yet...or for a while. I want to see some older series (original series, Skyrider, Black) and maybe some other Heisei eras (Faiz, Hibiki, Den-O...I'd say Kiva but honestly that is another where I rather see the series before first) before I think about Fourze. It does look neat with the high school concept but the switches seem cumbersome and the suit doesn't do it for me (plus some of what people said about it meandering around a bit and rushing when the endgame approaches)
Honestly I'm really started to think of Double, OOOs and Fourze as a trilogy. There were three great series right in a row, that flowed really nicely into each other and had a few similar elements between them. So I would say if you're going to watch one I would watch all three because they are kind of a mini era onto themselves and each one builds more on there shard universe. Really the movies are what unify them with Foundation X being in all three and that last movie where they all three teamed up was really the end of an era. Then Wizard was given the ball and they just whiffed it.
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Honestly I'm really started to think of Double, OOOs and Fourze as a trilogy. There were three great series right in a row, that flowed really nicely into each other and had a few similar elements between them. So I would say if you're going to watch one I would watch all three because they are kind of a mini era onto themselves and each one builds more on there shard universe. Really the movies are what unify them with Foundation X being in all three and that last movie where they all three teamed up was really the end of an era. Then Wizard was given the ball and they just whiffed it.
Dang, you went back 4 years for that comment of mine.

It's hard to say what the plans were especially with a lot of weird things going on (heck OOO wasn't fully on-board with the Foundation X elements as W and Fourze were but they still covered for it), but considering the situation, I don't know if they could have kept going with that storyline as long as they did. I can definitely see Foundation X having a position in Wizard (which I'm actually finally starting in July, but with it more based on alchemy than magic, it probably could just be another researched storyline) and obviously Drive with Riku Sanjo returning there (not to mention Ex-Aid with a lot of the element of video games and viruses, both of which I could see a field day for a secret group like them). But then there are Gaim and Ghost, both of which have other worlds but I just can't imagine how they would associate with it or if the writers there, especially someone like Urobuchi, would allow for the association of long-term elements. Gaim does have Yggdrasil, so there is a way for a corporation to work alongside a secret super-science firm; but from the little I know of Ghost, I can't figure how it would work there.
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Dang, you went back 4 years for that comment of mine.

It's hard to say what the plans were especially with a lot of weird things going on (heck OOO wasn't fully on-board with the Foundation X elements as W and Fourze were but they still covered for it), but considering the situation, I don't know if they could have kept going with that storyline as long as they did. I can definitely see Foundation X having a position in Wizard (which I'm actually finally starting in July, but with it more based on alchemy than magic, it probably could just be another researched storyline) and obviously Drive with Riku Sanjo returning there (not to mention Ex-Aid with a lot of the element of video games and viruses, both of which I could see a field day for a secret group like them). But then there are Gaim and Ghost, both of which have other worlds but I just can't imagine how they would associate with it or if the writers there, especially someone like Urobuchi, would allow for the association of long-term elements. Gaim does have Yggdrasil, so there is a way for a corporation to work alongside a secret super-science firm; but from the little I know of Ghost, I can't figure how it would work there.
Really that comment was four years old I thought it was on the last page of this thread, aw well.

Anyway what I meant about wizard wasn't so much that they didn't continue with the Foundation X stuff more that the show itself broke the chain of good rider shows after having three in a row, Foundation X or not. That's what happens when you tell the guy who was basically just the script editor for Hibiki to just keep the time slot warm because they have something really big planned for next year.
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Old September 9th, 2013, 05:22 PM   #15
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Kiva's the other member of my top 3, it's really good, and the first Kamen Rider I watched on my own. I watched W because a friend had me watch Fourze, and I hated it at the time, so he had me watch W instead. Faiz and Hibiki..... eh. Both of them kind of drag to me.
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Old September 9th, 2013, 08:43 PM   #16
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Now that there's a new thread, it's about time for me to start Faiz.

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Kamen Rider Ryuki: Episode Final
The Rider Fight ending in that universe was a moot point at the end of the movie: Yui had died, and Shiro had no reason to continue it. The true ending of the movie was actually revealed in the credits: the scene with the young Kanzaki siblings wasn't a flashback, it was another alteration of history created by the Time Vent Card. It parallels the change of events at the end of episode 28 (which is roughly when the movie was released, by the way) - Shiro wanted to correct history by preventing Yui from getting trapped in Mirror World that day, but still ultimately failed.

It's interesting to note that the main protagonist and the main antagonist of the series are Shinji and Shiro, both of which start with "shi". The pun on shi/death isn't a coincidence.

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Subarashii! It's the show you're waiting for.

Oh, and don't take the movie continuity so seriously. Movie Wars Core kind of contradicts Gotou's character development, Let's Go Kamen Riders screws up everyone's timeline and still manages to be inconsistent with Den-O's time travel logic, and none of the movies fit neatly with the timing of who possess which medals.
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The Rider Fight ending in that universe was a moot point at the end of the movie: Yui had died, and Shiro had no reason to continue it. The true ending of the movie was actually revealed in the credits: the scene with the young Kanzaki siblings wasn't a flashback, it was another alteration of history created by the Time Vent Card. It parallels the change of events at the end of episode 28 (which is roughly when the movie was released, by the way) - Shiro wanted to correct history by preventing Yui from getting trapped in Mirror World that day, but still ultimately failed.
Unfortunately, even with Shiro gone, it was set up for 13 Riders and ultimately it was probably going to play out until either Shinji or Ren went down, with the remainder getting the wish. If the Rider Fight in the Episode Final universe was more about the will of those who desire a wish (and Shiro has no further connection with his resolution), then essentially it can keep going forever unless either Shinji or Ren dies, thus giving the other the wish and finishing it for certain. The main story of the series would have ended without him and Yui but this Rider Fight would just go on and on even if it's just those two fighting dragonflies for eternity.


Subarashii! It's the show you're waiting for.

Oh, and don't take the movie continuity so seriously. Movie Wars Core kind of contradicts Gotou's character development, Let's Go Kamen Riders screws up everyone's timeline and still manages to be inconsistent with Den-O's time travel logic, and none of the movies fit neatly with the timing of who possess which medals.
Good news is I haven't seen Den-O so the matters of time-travel won't really play out in my head. Really all LGKR will end up being is probably just "a movie for KR's 40th anniversary"...which happens to star OOO since he's the Rider of the moment. And yeah I have heard continuity problems really exist compared to the other Neo-Heisei series and that essentially everything should be treated as an alternate universe in the movies.
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Old September 10th, 2013, 05:39 PM   #18
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Unfortunately, even with Shiro gone, it was set up for 13 Riders and ultimately it was probably going to play out until either Shinji or Ren went down, with the remainder getting the wish. If the Rider Fight in the Episode Final universe was more about the will of those who desire a wish (and Shiro has no further connection with his resolution), then essentially it can keep going forever unless either Shinji or Ren dies, thus giving the other the wish and finishing it for certain. The main story of the series would have ended without him and Yui but this Rider Fight would just go on and on even if it's just those two fighting dragonflies for eternity.
That's what's would've happened if that timeline were allowed to continue. But it couldn't, according to the rules of Shiro's game. That timeline, like every other one, abruptly ended sometime after Shiro failed to save Yui and reset everything with his trump card, the Time Vent. All of the various timelines, including several unseen ones, are connected in a Groundhog Day type of scenario: Shiro experimented with everyone's fates just trying to find the right scenario, none of which would ultimately save Yui.
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LGKR just proves how ridiculous Den-O's time travel logic is, I say...

(also, wooh! new thread!)
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Old September 9th, 2013, 09:05 PM   #20
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I need a new Rider to watch. I'm at 9 right now and I really want to have 10 under my belt before Gaim comes out. I think it's gonna have to be Agito, so is that series subbed, and is it entertaining?
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