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Old July 8th, 2016, 04:27 PM #241
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There won't be any more proper news until September now anyway, that's when we find out who the new Prime Minister is.
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Why September? They've gotten this far in the voting, why do we have to wait until September?
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Because the previous rounds were only voted on by Tory MPs, the final round is voted for by all members of the Conservative Party. Can't do that in a day. Only way we get a result quicker is if Leadsom withdraws, which would result in an automatic win for May.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36737426
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Frankly I'm surprised the thread's lasted this long given the rule on no political discussions (Which was being enforced in other threads today) and the fact I'm hardly the first person to openly express my views on here.
It's fine to share your view, just don't do it with an attitude that talks down to opposing sides. You aren't the first person who's been told to take it down a peg. We're keeping a close eye on here and if anyone seriously crosses the line in a disruptive or offensive manner, warnings are issued (publicly or privately) followed by infractions if it continues.

This thread was kept open as it's a huge situation, affecting a lot of the community here and it's a great opportunity for those outside the UK/EU that are unaware of the details to ask questions and learn something.
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Old July 9th, 2016, 02:10 AM #245
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Just remember, 52%, all the shit that goes down over the next few years is your own doing.
We don't scare easily. I'm glad I put my vote forward. We're going to be just fine.

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Old July 11th, 2016, 05:03 AM #246
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Andrea Leadsom has pulled out of the race, meaning May is a lock for Prime Minister.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...-politics-live

I figured this would happen after the "mums" controversy stirred up by The Times.
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Well, what do you know?
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Only way we get a result quicker is if Leadsom withdraws, which would result in an automatic win for May.
And that's exactly what happened. So when does Cameron hand over the keys?
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Well, what do you know?And that's exactly what happened. So when does Cameron hand over the keys?
It's been confirmed he'll step down on Wednesday.
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Pardon my ignorance, but when is the next general election scheduled for?
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Pardon my ignorance, but when is the next general election scheduled for?
It isn't, although it'd have to be 2020 at the latest given they have to occur a minimum of every 5 years.
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Yeah, new PM doesn't trigger GE.

Though honestly, before article 50 is triggered, I'd prefer it if a GE was called. Then the winning party/coalition decides if we do or not.
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It isn't, although it'd have to be 2020 at the latest given they have to occur a minimum of every 5 years.
Maximum of every five years. In fact it's fixed at every five years now due to an act of parliament.
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^ That's what I meant. The minimum frequency of GEs is once every 5 years.

Yeah, considering half the government's resigned in the last few weeks, I don't think it'd be unreasonable to have a GE.
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Scotland would vote SNP in droves, Corbyn would fail to get much of a voter increase, UKIP could maybe squeeze a few votes away from the Tories, but the Tories would win overall I think. Lib Dems are still nowhere to be found.

The political landscape hasn't changed too much recently. Still I think a GE would be for the best.
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Yeah, considering that the immediate aftermath of the decision might have had a significant impact on the public support for Brexit, a new GE might be a good idea. Another referendum would be excessively crass, would be contrary to the very spirit of a referendum in the first place, and would set a dangerous example. However, an election could serve as a far more acceptable stand-in for a second referendum. If the pro-Brexit MPs take a pounding, then maybe it's worth rethinking the issue.

On the other hand, regardless of whether or not Brexit is a good idea, the immediate aftermath was always going to be a pain in the ass, and anyone who said otherwise was lying through his teeth. Change like this never comes easily, no matter how it works out in the long run. So it may be too early to cut and run, and things might get better. Or they might get a lot worse.
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That's why "Project Fear" didn't work. The Remain camp should have told us the benefits of staying in the EU, not tried to scare us with doomsday scenarios. The Brexit voters were wise to their tricks and ignored them. They knew that while there might be short term pain, there may well be long term gain.
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That's why "Project Fear" didn't work. The Remain camp should have told us the benefits of staying in the EU, not tried to scare us with doomsday scenarios. The Brexit voters were wise to their tricks and ignored them. They knew that while there might be short term pain, there may well be long term gain.
They did tell us all the benefits. Leave supporters just ignored them as "Stupid rich people don't care about us and are just interested in staying rich". It wasn't "Project Fear". Any responsible politician would want to tell you the risks of leaving, rather than just shouting "IMMIGRATION" like the Leave campaign did until people voted for them. The Remain campaign were naturally afraid of what would happen to the country if we leave, just as I still am. The Remain campaign gave plenty of reasons to remain and highlighted the risks of leaving. The Leave campaign just repeated the same old slogans and falsified statistics over and over. The Remain campaign cared about this country, the Leave campaign cared about sticking it to all the other countries.
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"Stupid rich people don't care about us and are just interested in staying rich"
Ignoring the Brexit issue entirely, I fail to see the fault in this statement.
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Ignoring the Brexit issue entirely, I fail to see the fault in this statement.
Because believe it or not it wasn't just the rich people who wanted to remain. I'm not rich and I wanted to because I failed to see how the country was somehow going to magically be better off if we left. The EU provides us with so many benefits which we're going to lose if we leave. But far too many people ignored that and were more concerned about where their next door neighbour came from. I was on a polling station on voting day and we had quite a few people tell us reasons they had for voting leave and none of them had anything to do with politics. Hell, I've had heated discussions with family members which boiled down to their dislike of immigration. Because when it comes down to it immigration is all the Leavers cared about. Whereas the Remain camp cared about all the things we'd lose if we left.

It's not rich people wanting to stay rich. It's people not wanting the country to descend into chaos. Which I'd say isn't an unreasonable request.
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Who moves into 10 Downing Street tonight?

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