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Old August 31st, 2017, 12:45 PM   #1401
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1. So how do you log back in if the new password is wrong? Password recovery/reset?

2. Since you're copying from a password generator, paste it into Notepad first. See if it's pasting anything extra that you're not expecting. It commonly copies an extra blank space or two which could exist before or after the generated password.

3. Have you tried typing your own simpler password? Such as:
RangerBoard2017!
Ranger_Board2017

Try your own words with a combination of numbers and symbols.
1. Yes. Basically, I go through the password change, log out, attempt to log in. It tells me it's wrong, so I have to do the email password reset to get back in.

2. Even if it was adding something I wasn't expecting, I'm pasting the exact same value from my clipboard into the "change password" form and the login form.

3. Currently, I went back to a more "normal" password until I can figure it out. I'll experiment more and see if I can figure anything out.

Edit: It is being truncated. The field on the "change password" page is limited to 50 characters, and when you paste in a long password it gets truncated, but the form to type your password to log in isn't limited to 50 characters (even though there seems to be no actual way to use a password longer than 50 characters). So it doesn't match.

I was generating a 100 character password, which is why I was having problems. I cut it down to 50 and it works now.

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Old August 31st, 2017, 12:53 PM   #1402
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1. Yes. Basically, I go through the password change, log out, attempt to log in. It tells me it's wrong, so I have to do the email password reset to get back in.

2. Even if it was adding something I wasn't expecting, I'm pasting the exact same value from my clipboard into the "change password" form and the login form.

3. Currently, I went back to a more "normal" password until I can figure it out. I'll experiment more and see if I can figure anything out.
You mentioned as well you're generating a "long" password, how long are you generating?
It may be a character limit, or a specific symbol that conflicts with the database.

I use about 16 characters without issue.
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Old August 31st, 2017, 12:57 PM   #1403
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Edit: It is being truncated. The field on the "change password" page is limited to 50 characters, and when you paste in a long password it gets truncated, but the form to type your password to log in isn't limited to 50 characters (even though there seems to be no actual way to use a password longer than 50 characters). So it doesn't match.

I was generating a 100 character password, which is why I was having problems. I cut it down to 50 and it works now.
I suspected this in my previous reply, the database type for the current version of vBulletin is old and has lower limits.

But someone having a password over 24 characters is also rare. Anyone with a password close to 50 is unexpected.

Heck, I even just thought your password was around 24-32 characters. But 100? Overkill.
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Old August 31st, 2017, 01:09 PM   #1404
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I suspected this in my previous reply, the database type for the current version of vBulletin is old and has lower limits.

But someone having a password over 24 characters is also rare. Anyone with a password close to 50 is unexpected.

Heck, I even just thought your password was around 24-32 characters. But 100? Overkill.
I have my generator default to 100 characters because that's definitely going to be secure enough for literally anything I could ever want a password for; I never have to stop and think about what length the generated password should be (excepting max password lengths, of course).

If you don't have to type it yourself, there's literally no reason to not use a long password.

But, yeah, a 100 or even 50 character password is way more security than my account here needs.
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Old August 31st, 2017, 01:18 PM   #1405
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It's more security than anything needs.

It isn't just about creating a password that's difficult to brute force, you're also suppose to change passwords frequently in case of spyware, keyloggers, or any other data invasion that may involve password theft.

Just because you use a 50-100 characters Password, it does not make you any more secure than someone using a 20 length password that follows the complexity rules.
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