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Old August 12th, 2017, 10:28 PM   #1581
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In Japan, your agency owns you. So when some of these Kamen Rider actors became super famous, their agencies no longer allow them to return to Kamen Rider because they feel it's beneath them. Seriously, when you're a working actor/idol/whatever in Japan, you sign your life away. ShinkenRed's actor and Kiva's actor are two examples of actors who have been very open about being willing to return to the show but they aren't allowed.
That's what I don't understand, why would the agencies say no to money?
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Old August 12th, 2017, 10:40 PM   #1582
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That's what I don't understand, why would the agencies say no to money?
Because it's not an issue of money, it's an issue of image. To them, Kamen Rider is beneath them.
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Old August 12th, 2017, 11:39 PM   #1583
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Because it's not an issue of money, it's an issue of image. To them, Kamen Rider is beneath them.
Yeah, they're getting enough money siphoning off the top of performer's earnings leaving a lot of them barely enough to get by that they can be selective to maintain their image. There's actually an investigation underway into unfair treatment by agencies in Japan.

http://aramajapan.com/news/japan-fai...studies/78659/
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Old August 13th, 2017, 02:19 AM   #1584
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Well, some of those names are easier to get. Masahiro Inoue has Garo commitments but otherwise wouldn't be a problem. Mizushima Hiro... has never returned to Kamen Rider so far and he's a big name as well, so seems unlikely (even if the leaked image shows Hyper Kabuto it doesn't mean much). Faiz and Blade returned several times recently.

Tom Fujita tho? Amazon Neo Omega would just rip off their limbs and be done with that.

Do they even consider getting Decade's replacements?
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Old August 13th, 2017, 03:28 AM   #1585
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And of course Joe Odagiri wouldn't come back as Kuuga anyway.

edit: Although, as AtoMan says, what would be the harm in Ryouta Murai doing it? Or is he too famous now?

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Old August 13th, 2017, 05:39 AM   #1586
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That's what I don't understand, why would the agencies say no to money?
It's not just about money. Status/keeping face is very important.

Imagine making a million dollars at a job then losing it and going to work at McDonald's cashier.

Some might not care(it's a job) for others it's a blow to their ego. They could lose face

It sort of like that in Hollywood too. Another example would be if Tom Cruise appeared in Power Rangers

"He must be having money problems to appear on power rangers" that is what some would assume.

I heard the same type of thing with Elizabeth Banks.

"Why is she in a power ranger movie? Isn't that a little beneath her?"


So going back to kamen rider. If an actor who is famous now goes back to Kamen rider it could mean they're desperate or not as in demand

They're essentially going backwards not forward in their career.

It's a pretty universal concept going beyond Kamen rider and power rangers.

Keeping face/status

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Old August 13th, 2017, 06:15 AM   #1587
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The Heisei era may end, but Kamen Rider will keep going as long as Toei wills it.
And we know Japan is never one to take advantage of an opportunity to celebrate something.

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Oh gawd yes.
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Old August 13th, 2017, 08:54 AM   #1588
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Because it's not an issue of money, it's an issue of image. To them, Kamen Rider is beneath them.
Well glad to see toku has that burden world wide....
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Old August 13th, 2017, 11:30 AM   #1589
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Well glad to see toku has that burden world wide....
Why wouldn't it?

Children's entertaiment is derided by all adults, not just Americans. Hell, Americans are the biggest champions of it, that's why RB has so many foreigners.
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Old August 13th, 2017, 11:39 AM   #1590
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Yeah, it goes like this:

-Fantasy + kids show (Sentai/KR) = childish, goofy, beneath us.

-Fantasy + adult show (Game of Thrones) = brilliant, greatest thing on TV.

It's a pathetic double standard but that's the world we live in.
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Old August 13th, 2017, 11:44 AM   #1591
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Just like the sports fans that dress up stupidly for games yet they make fun of people who cosplay.

People are stupid.
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Old August 13th, 2017, 11:47 AM   #1592
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-Fantasy + kids show (Sentai/KR) = childish, goofy, beneath us.

-Fantasy + adult show (Game of Thrones) = brilliant, greatest thing on TV.
I attribute that to all the sex scenes, though.
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Old August 13th, 2017, 11:50 AM   #1593
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I attribute that to all the sex scenes, though.
Which is funny because even those couldn't make Game of Thrones not boring as sin.
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Old August 13th, 2017, 12:04 PM   #1594
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I attribute that to all the sex scenes, though.
So, how 'bout that Abaranger?
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Old August 13th, 2017, 12:23 PM   #1595
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Of course Masahiro would come back. He's basically the Toku equivalent of David Tennant

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Yeah, they're getting enough money siphoning off the top of performer's earnings leaving a lot of them barely enough to get by that they can be selective to maintain their image. There's actually an investigation underway into unfair treatment by agencies in Japan.

http://aramajapan.com/news/japan-fai...studies/78659/
About damn time, if you asked me. What happened to Yuuki's actress is still fresh on my mind

Speaking of agencies, didn't Kabuto's started his own agency away from the one he was with? Could've sworn I read that part somewhere
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Old August 13th, 2017, 03:56 PM   #1596
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Yeah, it goes like this:

-Fantasy + kids show (Sentai/KR) = childish, goofy, beneath us.

-Fantasy + adult show (Game of Thrones) = brilliant, greatest thing on TV.

It's a pathetic double standard but that's the world we live in.
It's not exactly WRONG though. GoT is written for adults. KR/SS, while better than Power Rangers, is clearly written for a younger audience (though I'll say that Ex-Aid did a good job of not talking down to the audience).
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Old August 13th, 2017, 04:53 PM   #1597
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This begs the question, if these agencies feel that way about Kamen Rider, why let them even star in it in the first place?
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Old August 13th, 2017, 05:08 PM   #1598
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This begs the question, if these agencies feel that way about Kamen Rider, why let them even star in it in the first place?
At least compared to PR, Sentai and especially Rider do have a high profile and are a good way to get an actor on the map. Every performer has to start somewhere.
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Old August 13th, 2017, 05:11 PM   #1599
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This begs the question, if these agencies feel that way about Kamen Rider, why let them even star in it in the first place?
Because it is a GREAT stepping stone. A nationally syndicated TV show that's a national icon. Takeru Sato, Tori Matsuzaka, & Suda Masaki never would of taken off like they did if not for their big breaks in Toku.
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Old August 13th, 2017, 05:13 PM   #1600
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And two of those people have made it very clear that they'd like to return.

It saddened me to find out Philip regrets the role.
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