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Old September 23rd, 2009, 12:19 PM   #261
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Hopefully Eddie will tell us his version of RPM's ending after the show finishes.
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Old September 23rd, 2009, 02:25 PM   #262
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Different Ranger systems work on different laws. Zordon was clearly onto a lot more than he let on, whereas K is scraping along with what she can. (And we are not getting Rangers for the dino trains.)
I guess, but I still thought the reasoning behind the failure to connect the zords was a little weird. I mean, to say that the zords couldn't connect to the grid based on extinction is clearly false, based on what we've seen from Zordon's era. I understand that maybe she didn't know how to do it until later, and that ranger systems differ, but the grid is the grid. She was just wrong the first time.
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Old September 23rd, 2009, 02:30 PM   #263
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To be honest, I just couldn't bring myself to love this episode. There was just so much amazing potential that was completely lost during it's actual execution.

One of the initial points that I didn't like was the fact that such important information / weaponry was STILL available in the remnants of Alphabet Soup. For someone as smart as Dr K, you would have thought that she would have retrieved everything from there at some point after establishing the rangers. Which leads directly on to the set up of the episode which felt like a complete rehash of the whalezord (or whatever it is called) scenario. (Venjix has, manipulate biofields, now it's ours, blah blah blah). I suppose you could call that 'nice' continuity, but it just felt like a complete rehash, albeit on a much lower, and less dramatic, scale.

Then there's Truman. It just felt so completely out of character for him to let it go so easily. A brief conversation and that's it? That's all you have to say to K? Blah. It would have been so much better if it was a much more grudging reluctance. Say, if Scott was directly in danger, then the episode plays out as usual with him seeing the photo of his dead son, yada yada yada. And then that grudging acceptance leading to K having to rebuild trust with Truman. But no, it seems (at the moment at least) it was all resolved and blown under the carpet in a matter of mere minutes.

This information was kept from Truman (and the citizens of Corinth for that matter) since the beginning of the show. This should have been a much more impacting storyline, instead of just being sidelined into a mere whisper. That was just so disappointing.

And (though this is not restricted to the confines of this episode alone) I am really growing tiresome of the in-zord lines. For the past few episode, only seconds after a Megazord is formed, someone is bound to say "we're out of power!!!" What? Already?!! Ugh! It's just a repeated line that has far outstayed it's welcome.

There were some nice touches in the episode. The K video, the use of the holograms, and Ziggy at the end, but I just couldn't bring myself to like the entire product. RPM is really starting to slip for me personally.
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Old September 23rd, 2009, 03:18 PM   #264
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And (though this is not restricted to the confines of this episode alone) I am really growing tiresome of the in-zord lines. For the past few episode, only seconds after a Megazord is formed, someone is bound to say "we're out of power!!!" What? Already?!! Ugh! It's just a repeated line that has far outstayed it's welcome.
THIS.

I'm sooo over the useless zord fight dialogue in the last few weeks, just thrown in there for nothing. RPM was doing so well to get rid of all that superfluous crap, but it's all slowly seeping right back in and it just drops the mood down a couple notches every time for me.
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Old September 23rd, 2009, 03:30 PM   #265
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The only way SPD can possibly come after RPM is if RPM's finale consists of a deus ex machina of gargantuan proportions where aliens come to civilize the planet as well as rejuvenate it. And that would suck.
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Old September 23rd, 2009, 05:54 PM   #266
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To be honest, I just couldn't bring myself to love this episode. There was just so much amazing potential that was completely lost during it's actual execution.

One of the initial points that I didn't like was the fact that such important information / weaponry was STILL available in the remnants of Alphabet Soup. For someone as smart as Dr K, you would have thought that she would have retrieved everything from there at some point after establishing the rangers.
Not time mention that throughout all the years Dr. K was at Alphabet Soup, she was never able to get those zords to work, but now in the span of a day(not even that), she's able to gain control of them through some vague means... lame.
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Old September 23rd, 2009, 07:55 PM   #267
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Hopefully Eddie will tell us his version of RPM's ending after the show finishes.
That's what I was thinking just now, as often as BTS material comes out after the show from cast and crew, I could see Eddie possibly telling us his vision.
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Old September 23rd, 2009, 08:57 PM   #268
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There are so many ways in which a situation like this could be written, which would be totally different from what people seem to just automatically assume would happen.
For me it's more a question of "Can PR pull off the ending the time travel ending that would work?"

Because we saw how well they handled it in "Wormhole"...
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Old September 23rd, 2009, 10:31 PM   #269
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With the line about hologram recordings being so last century, Dr. K was referring to Princess Leia. You see, after she escaped Alphabet Soup she became a fan of 1970's sci-fi movies. Oh, and because I love the original Star Wars.
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Old September 23rd, 2009, 11:10 PM   #270
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With the line about hologram recordings being so last century, Dr. K was referring to Princess Leia. You see, after she escaped Alphabet Soup she became a fan of 1970's sci-fi movies. Oh, and because I love the original Star Wars.
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Old September 24th, 2009, 01:53 AM   #271
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Nice focus on Truman/K about moving on from the past for a brighter future.

Why'd Venjix not send Tenaya to the rundown Alphabet Soup sooner? I liked the plot and how snooping around the old storage awakened the DinoTrain. I thought it was funny that of all the props to use as old Ranger tech, they had an Overdrive helmet. >_>

Pretty funny with the holograms.

The sudden Megazord practice felt out of place. To me, it's reasonable enough Ziggy thought they should train, figuring Drill-Bot would go large soon anyway. Though it would've flowed better if Drill-Bot had actually run away or something. Also, would'nt have thought Corinth has a train system.

I felt like this episode should've been done sooner, but better late than never. 4/5
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Old September 24th, 2009, 09:57 AM   #272
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Actually, it's an interesting question...
When I watched the episode, I assumed the helmet was there because the OO rangers would have gone there (or Mack alone, whatever) to try and stop Venjix. But somehow Mack would have been taken down, or at least severely injured so that he would lose his helmet.
Do you think that was the case, or that the AS was just messing with older ranger tech, and the helmet was laying around? I think it's weird to think of it that way, because if they had access to OO ranger tech they wouldn't need to create a new set of powers, but it's not totally impossible... I still think Mack went there and was killed.

About the train system... well, we have to thank Sentai for that, lol.
But it's interesting, lol, the first time I watched the episode, I thought they were OUT of the dome. It didn't bothered me to have a train system of older times... But when I understood they were INSIDE the dome... Lol, I guess we can only blame Sentai and "close our eyes" to that. Or one can assume that when Corinth was build they started creating the train system but never made any use of it.
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Old September 24th, 2009, 10:16 AM   #273
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I think it was just AS experimenting with past Ranger tech. I'm sure the Overdrive powers would've been used in the development of the RPM powers. Mack wouldn't even be around anymore anyway.
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Old September 24th, 2009, 10:24 AM   #274
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If you take a closer look at the helmet you'll see it's an Overdrive sculpt



you'll also see there are some slight difrences in the helmet. There is something printed on the front. Maybe it say's power ranger or maybe prototype. Either way it's a rehashed repaint.

Maybe it's acquired ranger tech Alphabet soup stole from Hartford Tech. maybey Hartford Tech was a secret front for a Pre Alphabet soup. Heaven knows Andrew Hartford was a shaddy tool.
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Old September 24th, 2009, 10:31 AM   #275
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Looks like it said "PROJECT" on the front. Truth be told, I didn't even notice that it was an Overdrive helmet until someone pointed it out on here.
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Old September 24th, 2009, 10:36 AM   #276
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Lol, my assumption that Mack went there cames from my view that it happens only a few years later than OO. =) if I am correct, you have to admit Mack could have been there.

Anyway, with the information about it being a sculpt, which I didn't notice when I watched it (Youtube, low quality, lol), maybe, just maybe, when they started creating the RPM powers they started by replicating the designs of OO, and later created their owns (to avoid problems with Justice, since the descendants of Hartford would probably want to know if they had stolen the old OO stuff).
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Old September 24th, 2009, 10:47 AM   #277
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I think it was just a silent nod to a past ranger franchise.

Wait, sorry, it could never be something that simple.
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Old September 24th, 2009, 10:53 AM   #278
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ohh I just had a thought.

Everything ties in really well.

venjix takes over everything after SPD so we end up with all the rangers enslaved, the aliens either murdered told to leave or the most horrid of ideas converted into the first line of hybrid attackbots.

so venix wipes out everything but the corrinth city. the waistlands are just that. the results of 3-5 years of Venjix control.

So when we see in time force (RFTF) Ransik is walking the waistlands and finds the Mutorgs.

now if you think about it. the human race has been wiped out and using advanced alien tech Timeforce start to manufacture "perfect humans". ransik was the result of accidental mutation.

so RPM would fit into the end of SPD and be a while until the early form of Timeforce could be established.




How to fit everything know abour RPM continuity into past seasons

JKP refrence - JKP is now a huge successful chain of Pizza Parlors.
RPM takes Place Before SPD.
Newtech City is built on the reminants of Corrinth City

The waistlands seen in RFTF (the TF WF team up) is the areas that are still contaminated from the Venjix Attacks and Radiation - Ransik is seen wandering these in the team up.

As SPD takes place after RPM the reason we hardly see any humans is because they are a rare species now. Aliens have settled in and become part of the planets enbabitants.

SPD rebuild the city's

SPD use old Ranger Tech such as the space suits and also build the prototypes for Timeforce style suits which get scrapped later for the B squad suits

most aliens either have some sort of Human characteristics so pass as humans (IE tyzonn)

As the human race is begining to die out the Alien Alliance (the guys that formed SPD and the early Timeforce) develop a new method of repopulating the planet.

this also results in new Humans for the planet, and accidental mutants such as Ransik

SPD finally becomes Timeforce.

3000 AD has now become a much more stable society, sure tey've got problems with mutants but it's sorting it's self out ok.

ransik goes back and causes problems in 2001, and a paradox is born. well sort of but if you think about it everything is kind of connected in some way.
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Old September 24th, 2009, 10:53 AM   #279
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I think it was just a silent nod to a past ranger franchise.

Wait, sorry, it could never be something that simple.
Yeah, never, it has to be something that can be written into fan fiction!
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Old September 24th, 2009, 11:45 AM   #280
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You know for SPD to take place after RPM, you would have to ignore the events of "Samurai" where there is still a Japan to go to.
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