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havemercy
04-03-2006, 09:11 AM
Worst Fan Fic of the Month

Nominate the worst of the worst.


Here's just a few of my nods. I'm sure I missed some.



Kai - Lightspeed rescue to Space patrol Delta: The Bridge .... someone rescue this story!
http://www.rangerboard.com/showthread.php?t=84519

PrincessShayla - Darkside Battle ....... he lost this battle apparently
http://www.rangerboard.com/showthread.php?t=84757

Uma_Dekablue_Sakuranbo - Kai's Tragedy .... what a tragedy this story is
http://www.rangerboard.com/showthread.php?t=84617

Mexican Ranger - Aura Taskforce Thunder Rangers ... this author should be deported
http://www.rangerboard.com/showthread.php?t=84811

TSoldier
04-03-2006, 10:03 AM
Ouch. Are you just getting a head start on April's quota for making internet users cry? I'd find this terribly insulting if the validity in concept of the whole thing wasn't appreciable. Still, I think we'll see more acceptance of ventures that help nurture and inspire good writing (like FFOTM and PHAETON's writing contests), rather than ones that point at it and laugh.

havemercy
04-03-2006, 10:20 AM
You know these stories stink like old people, man. Don't pretend.

TSoldier
04-03-2006, 10:49 AM
You know these stories stink like old people, man. Don't pretend.
I haven't actually read any of them, except Mexican Ranger's, and it wasn't that bad.

havemercy
04-03-2006, 12:31 PM
I haven't actually read any of them, except Mexican Ranger's, and it wasn't that bad.


Wasn't that bad, as in pretty bad but you're being nice.

Angelfox
04-03-2006, 01:03 PM
are you so stupid you dont even realize that this in the wrong forum?? this should be in the poll's section...its not a fanfic, its a start for the best FFOTM...
while we're at it how bout a new poll rite here??

how many people think havemercy is the biggest jerk on RB and should just shut up???

Romanus
04-03-2006, 01:27 PM
If I could vote a hundred times for that poll I would.

havemercy
04-03-2006, 01:29 PM
Awww Angelfox don't cry. *hands you tissue*

This is for the poll btw. I need your noms, people. Let the author you love to hate know how much they need to stop writing and take up another hobby like .... not breathing? :confused:

Galwit Mysto!
04-03-2006, 01:48 PM
are you so stupid you dont even realize that this in the wrong forum?? this should be in the poll's section...its not a fanfic, its a start for the best FFOTM...
while we're at it how bout a new poll rite here??

how many people think havemercy is the biggest jerk on RB and should just shut up???


*raises hand* I vote yes!

Tyr-El
04-03-2006, 01:49 PM
Play nice children. Or I'll ban all y'all :)

Galwit Mysto!
04-03-2006, 01:52 PM
Awww Angelfox don't cry. *hands you tissue*

This is for the poll btw. I need your noms, people. Let the author you love to hate know how much they need to stop writing and take up another hobby like .... not breathing? :confused:


Hey, havemercy, you might think that people's fanfiction "stinks". I think that all of them are awesome. But that doesnt mean that you can go around doing this. Yes, you have a right for opinion, but its just WRONG to keep doing what your doing! STOP! PLEASE!!!! We REALLY don't want to hear your whining anymore! I know that I speak for half the RB when I say this. KNOCK IT OFF!!!

Galwit Mysto!
04-03-2006, 01:53 PM
Play nice children. Or I'll ban all y'all :)

ok.sorry :)

Angelfox
04-03-2006, 02:02 PM
i play nice when others play nice.....but ya i'll backoff a little

Angelfox
04-03-2006, 02:10 PM
Awww Angelfox don't cry. *hands you tissue*

This is for the poll btw. I need your noms, people. Let the author you love to hate know how much they need to stop writing and take up another hobby like .... not breathing? :confused:
thanks for the tissue, ive had a big laugh at your stupidty...:023:
good luck with your not breathing hobby

Lunar Wolf Ranger
04-03-2006, 03:53 PM
havemercy, I understand that there are some fics that you hate. Hell, I have some fics that I don't like, but you're being too harsh on that they should die. Maybe writing isn't that person's thing, but at least their putting their thoughts down and submitting it so other people can read what their concocking in their minds. Havemercy, if you critisize people so much, why don't you write a story?

Angelfox
04-03-2006, 04:20 PM
havemercy, I understand that there are some fics that you hate. Hell, I have some fics that I don't like, but you're being too harsh on that they should die. Maybe writing isn't that person's thing, but at least their putting their thoughts down and submitting it so other people can read what their concocking in their minds. Havemercy, if you critisize people so much, why don't you write a story?
Amen brother, a question i've asked several times already

GreenNinja
04-03-2006, 04:21 PM
I think we should go ahead with this. Admit it, for every good fanfic out there, ten more bad ones exist. Hollywood has the Razzies, so why don't we try something like this at least once?

Angelfox
04-03-2006, 04:35 PM
I think we should go ahead with this. Admit it, for every good fanfic out there, ten more bad ones exist. Hollywood has the Razzies, so why don't we try something like this at least once?
ladies and gentleman, meet havemercy's little brother...:mad:
no one is sayin that every fic out there is great....all most of us are trying to point out to havemercy is that you dont have to completly rip the author or the story apart..some opinons can be given better, and sinse the mods aint locked the thread it looks like they have decided to allow this so it looks like the great experiment is on....:P

GreenNinja
04-03-2006, 04:39 PM
ladies and gentleman, meet havemercy's little brother...:mad:
Oh, how false that accusation is. And besides, sometimes ripping apart a story is FUN. It's called MSTing. Me and two others (Impy and DSS) did that awhile ago with BSL's fic. You know why? Because BSL's fic and poetry were ASKING to be ripped apart. And it was fun to do so. So, no, I'm not havemercy's little brother. I have no association with the guy.

I'm just saying that if there's a chance to poke fun at bad fics, why not have it?

Tyr-El
04-03-2006, 04:40 PM
sinse the mods aint locked the thread it looks like they have decided to allow this so it looks like the great experiment is on....:P

And you're, what, shocked and disappointed? I'm evil http://www.chronosdesign.com/images/smilies/evilgrin.gif

And somewhat curious to see how this turns out. Sometimes it takes some harsh criticism in order to push us to better ourselves. I remember one review I read of one of my early fics. It went something like "Based on how much everyone raves about this, I can only hope it gets better, because what I've read isn't anything worth raving about". And y'know what? I'm the first to admit that my first few fics were atrocious. But I was knew to writing fics, and got better as I went along.

Assuming the comments are kept civil, I have no problem with allowing this. Advising someone to kill themselves? *Not* civil. If there's any of that, there will be consequences.

BLANKS
04-03-2006, 04:54 PM
Brandon B sits back and twiddles his thumbs, waiting for the bombing to commence...

Angelfox
04-03-2006, 04:54 PM
And you're, what, shocked and disappointed? I'm evil http://www.chronosdesign.com/images/smilies/evilgrin.gif

And somewhat curious to see how this turns out. Sometimes it takes some harsh criticism in order to push us to better ourselves. I remember one review I read of one of my early fics. It went something like "Based on how much everyone raves about this, I can only hope it gets better, because what I've read isn't anything worth raving about". And y'know what? I'm the first to admit that my first few fics were atrocious. But I was knew to writing fics, and got better as I went along.

Assuming the comments are kept civil, I have no problem with allowing this. Advising someone to kill themselves? *Not* civil. If there's any of that, there will be consequences.
shocked and disappointed...no not really im glad you did for my own personal reasons....i expected the debate would continue....and how it turns out..hard ot say cause everyone is always convinced there right has for you being evil..i doubt it:005:

Angelfox
04-03-2006, 05:02 PM
Brandon B sits back and twiddles his thumbs, waiting for the bombing to commence...
:eek:

cant we all just get along??
::071::frocket:

BLANKS
04-03-2006, 05:04 PM
i do, but then again, I'm more of a watcher than actually taking part in such arguements.:023:

Angelfox
04-03-2006, 05:10 PM
i do, but then again, I'm more of a watcher than actually taking part in such arguements.:023:
it was a rhetorical statement...somebody always says it....:D

BLANKS
04-03-2006, 05:11 PM
word, word, but I was just letting everyone out there listening why I dont let myself get dragged into such squabble.

Bionic Red
04-03-2006, 05:14 PM
word, word, but I was just letting everyone out there listening why I dont let myself get dragged into such squabble.
That's a wise stance.

Angelfox
04-03-2006, 05:16 PM
That's a wise stance.
true but somebody's got to look out for the little guy/up and comer..all im sayin is that you can give critism.....but you dont have to tear somebody apart to do it...

BLANKS
04-03-2006, 05:18 PM
true on that

Devious One
04-03-2006, 06:28 PM
And you're, what, shocked and disappointed? I'm evil http://www.chronosdesign.com/images/smilies/evilgrin.gif

And somewhat curious to see how this turns out. Sometimes it takes some harsh criticism in order to push us to better ourselves. I remember one review I read of one of my early fics. It went something like "Based on how much everyone raves about this, I can only hope it gets better, because what I've read isn't anything worth raving about". And y'know what? I'm the first to admit that my first few fics were atrocious. But I was knew to writing fics, and got better as I went along.

Assuming the comments are kept civil, I have no problem with allowing this. Advising someone to kill themselves? *Not* civil. If there's any of that, there will be consequences.
He's right, people. You all know my work. Most notably the Countdown to Destruction novel (http://deviousone2002.tripod.com/c2dthenovel.htm)and everybody here loves it, but it took me about five years before I could write like that. My first attempts were horrible and I got several emails telling me how bad a writer I truly was. And they were right to say that. My grammer was off, I didn't have a good scope for the stories. I just started them just to have a story and I didn't think the plot through. That was my fault. But I've gotten better and because of those nasty comments, I was able to sit down and concentrate and the C2D novel was born. So yeah, Superman is absolutely right, maybe the purpose for this thread is wrong and terrible, but some good could come out of it. These writers could use this thread to better themselves.

BattleRanger
04-03-2006, 06:36 PM
I just think its bullshit to have a Worst Fanfic award. I know that and you guys know that, no matter how much contrived bullshit you throw our way. If you wanna talk shit about someone's lame ass fanfic, go ahead, I support you. But if you wanna rub their face in it, I'd just as soon not have people like you associated with the PR fandom, Rangerboard, or myself.

ElementMaster149
04-03-2006, 06:52 PM
have you guys noticed that he he is trying to just get a controversy over this. he hasn't even said anything except the 1st post. this is what he...er 'it' wants us to do, get angry. so just stop your falling into his trap.

ElementMaster149
04-03-2006, 06:55 PM
EDIT: he has said more things, but just know that you are falling into his trap.

now you guys can flame me beause im a retard

TBF
04-03-2006, 07:18 PM
Oh, how false that accusation is.
Oh, anyone in MC is immune to the "*insert n00b here*'s brother treatment? I'll have to add that to the list.


Now, for this sad excuse for a topic, I have a couple things to say.
If you don't like a fic, don't read it!
Or at least leave constructive critisism instead of just flaming.

Angelfox
04-03-2006, 07:19 PM
have you guys noticed that he he is trying to just get a controversy over this. he hasn't even said anything except the 1st post. this is what he...er 'it' wants us to do, get angry. so just stop your falling into his trap.
most likely.....ya would have to agree with that...me personally ive said what i have to say so im done with it...peace ya'll

Galwit Mysto!
04-03-2006, 07:19 PM
EDIT: he has said more things, but just know that you are falling into his trap.

now you guys can flame me beause im a retard


no, not true. Your not a retard. I mean, I fell into the trap right away. If you look at my earlier post, I fell right in and let my quick - to - jump anger get the best of me. I should have calmed down and resonably thought it over. He just wants attention and thats what I gave him.:eusa_doh: Yep. I totally fell into the trap.

Impy
04-03-2006, 07:33 PM
Oh, anyone in MC is immune to the "*insert n00b here*'s brother treatment? I'll have to add that to the list.


Now, for this sad excuse for a topic, I have a couple things to say.
If you don't like a fic, don't read it!
Or at least leave constructive critisism instead of just flaming.
Whassat, Joe? "Whaaa, I write shitty fanfiction and was booted from MC"?

TBF
04-03-2006, 07:38 PM
Whassat, Joe? "Whaaa, I write shitty fanfiction and was booted from MC"?
Only one person worth half a crap has given non-constructive negative critisism to any of my fics. And, FYI, I wanted to get booted from MC. I did it on purpose. Did you notice one day I was fine with all of you, the next I was against MC in all of my posts?

Tyr-El
04-03-2006, 07:45 PM
I think there needs to be a rule forbidding MC discussion here because OMGWEDON'TCAREABOUTYOURPETTYLITTLEDRAMAINANAIMCHATROOMTHATHASNOTHINGTODOWIT HTHEBOARD.

TOK-715
04-03-2006, 07:49 PM
I think there needs to be a rule forbidding MC discussion here because OMGWEDON'TCAREABOUTYOURPETTYLITTLEDRAMAINANAIMCHATROOMTHATHASNOTHINGTODOWIT HTHEBOARD.

I concur!

Galwit Mysto!
04-03-2006, 08:08 PM
May I ask what MC is?:confused:

GreenNinja
04-03-2006, 08:09 PM
May I ask what MC is?:confused:
Mutant Chat. We are like the ninja - silent and unseen, but deadly.

GreenNinja
04-03-2006, 08:21 PM
I hereby retract my support of this. Leave the MSTing of bad fanfics to the threads of those specific fanfics. I do not approve of this contest.

I do, however, approve of making fun of bad fics.

Thank you.

havemercy
04-03-2006, 09:54 PM
I also approve of making fun of bad fics, but I do approve of making a poll of bad fics. I'll make it myself if need be. I'll even quote some of the worst lines, especially from a self-proclaimed journalism major who described an entire Megazord battle in ONE FRIGGIN SENTENCE!

Not sure if it's more funny or more sad, but the lot of you really don’t see how awful from a writing standpoint these stories are. Great, you have an interesting plot in your own little mind, but it comes out as purely uninspired, misspelled, grammatically-challenged, plot-lacking, Mary-Sueing, description-lacking, highly improbable diarrhea.

Angelfox
04-03-2006, 10:10 PM
I also approve of making fun of bad fics, but I do approve of making a poll of bad fics. I'll make it myself if need be. I'll even quote some of the worst lines, especially from a self-proclaimed journalism major who described an entire Megazord battle in ONE FRIGGIN SENTENCE!

Not sure if it's more funny or more sad, but the lot of you really don’t see how awful from a writing standpoint these stories are. Great, you have an interesting plot in your own little mind, but it comes out as purely uninspired, misspelled, grammatically-challenged, plot-lacking, Mary-Sueing, description-lacking, highly improbable diarrhea.
did you write that yourself or did you have your mommy help you???

havemercy
04-03-2006, 10:15 PM
did you write that yourself or did you have your mommy help you???

No I had your mommy help me after we had 'fun time'. And boy do we have fun! ;)

Nic
04-03-2006, 10:20 PM
The thing I don't understand is why you put yourself through the agony of reading these bad fics. I can usually tell in the first paragraph whether a fic will be interesting to me or not.

If it's not, I use my trusty mouse to move on.

In the end, no one's perfect. If fic writers were, they would be published authors. BTW, professionals have editors that help them deal with the problems you describe above. Maybe you should try offering your help to fic writers, instead of wasting your time with things like this.

It won't stop more bad fics from being posted.

Tyr-El
04-03-2006, 10:22 PM
did you write that yourself or did you have your mommy help you???

No I had your mommy help me after we had 'fun time'. And boy do we have fun! ;)

Don't say I didn't warn the two of you. It's right there at the beginning of this thread.

TSoldier
04-04-2006, 10:32 AM
Wasn't that bad, as in pretty bad but you're being nice.
No, I'm not that nice. Honestly, I felt like it was a very inspired story written by an amateur, but that actually describes a lot of the stories here, including mine.
Havemercy, if you critisize people so much, why don't you write a story?
Now, for this sad excuse for a topic, I have a couple things to say.
If you don't like a fic, don't read it!
This is rarely a valid arguement. On the flip side of your aguement that one shouldn't read a fic if they don't like it, the other could say one shouldn't post a fic if they can't write it. It's really not up to readers to write the stories for us. If Havemercy isn't a writer, he shouldn't bother pretending to be and you shouldn't encourage that. I just think Havemercy isn't encouraging it from other's either. I agree that constructive criticism is defenitely the better way to go, but in most cases, a lot of fics end up just falling off the face of the Earth before they ever see any change, despite being the recipient of either flames or constructive criticism. I can't think of one Fic that took it's criticism and made an auspicious change because of it.
You all know my work. Most notably the Countdown to Destruction novel (http://deviousone2002.tripod.com/c2dthenovel.htm)and everybody here loves it...
*Raises hand*
I didn't love it. That's not to say I hate it or anything but I just wanted to make clear my stance on the story before anyone did that for me. Overall it was an interesting and fairly entertaining read but once I finished it I realized that there were (IIRC) 3 things I didn't like about it. One was the 3 obstacles Zedd made Tommy face. They were presented as though they were 3 mystifying puzzles he had to solve or 3 journey's he had to make, but all they ended up being were 3 random fights against 3 random monsters that TOmmy had killed at least once before in the past. The other things I didn't like were the drawn out death of Zordon and Kimberly and Billy's completely and utterly random and out of the blue hook up at the end. The rest was better.
The thing I don't understand is why you put yourself through the agony of reading these bad fics. I can usually tell in the first paragraph whether a fic will be interesting to me or not.

In the end, no one's perfect. If fic writers were, they would be published authors. BTW, professionals have editors that help them deal with the problems you describe above. Maybe you should try offering your help to fic writers, instead of wasting your time with things like this.

It won't stop more bad fics from being posted.
The fact that fics get posted already makes them an object of RB's attention, so the question might change to "Why would the author put the reader thru the agony of reading bad fics?" While I don't agree with some of Havemercy's comments, the truth of the matter is that his comments tend to actually be more constructive and insightful than many others that hide the fact there there might be some problem the author needs to attend to, and actually show no hint of the commenter having actually read the fic because the praise received is so "cut and paste". I don't think he'd say outright bad things about a fic unless he felt it was outright bad. I swear, I've seen him say some good things about some of the stories around here.

And i do think this willl have an effect on some fics in general being posted here. I can imagine at least one person seeing this and being like, "You know what? Forget it". That sucks, but my only real concern is that that person might be a young kid that could actually end up being a good writer if they weren't scared off that path cuz of controversies such as this.
I just think its bullshit to have a Worst Fanfic award. I know that and you guys know that, no matter how much contrived bullshit you throw our way. If you wanna talk shit about someone's lame ass fanfic, go ahead, I support you. But if you wanna rub their face in it, I'd just as soon not have people like you associated with the PR fandom, Rangerboard, or myself.
I stll think that it's a valid and entertaining idea, but I don't think it should be sought thru. I think there are more benevelont methods for identifying content in fics. And we don't have the right audience for it. The Razzie's are fun. Yeah, the concept is funny, but that doesn't mean it's fun for everyone (especially us authors), and it doesn't mean it's not mean spirited or even possible. It's not even that easy for people to go thru and read all the good fic's here. It'll be less probable that anyone's going to go thru and read all the bad one's simply to be able to vote on this. I think people would rather spend their time in the Fan Fic Forum reading entertaining stories, instead of pointing at people and laughing, spending their time reading stories they don't find entertaining. Unless of course they feel all the fics here are the latter...

But I don't.

Nic
04-04-2006, 04:22 PM
The fact that fics get posted already makes them an object of RB's attention, so the question might change to "Why would the author put the reader thru the agony of reading bad fics?" While I don't agree with some of Havemercy's comments, the truth of the matter is that his comments tend to actually be more constructive and insightful than many others that hide the fact there there might be some problem the author needs to attend to, and actually show no hint of the commenter having actually read the fic because the praise received is so "cut and paste". I don't think he'd say outright bad things about a fic unless he felt it was outright bad. I swear, I've seen him say some good things about some of the stories around here.

And i do think this willl have an effect on some fics in general being posted here. I can imagine at least one person seeing this and being like, "You know what? Forget it". That sucks, but my only real concern is that that person might be a young kid that could actually end up being a good writer if they weren't scared off that path cuz of controversies such as this.
Well, I agree with what you've said, but I think fic readers (like us) know we're not dealing with professional, polished stories when we go to read them in the first place. Of course, some of them are very well-written, but a lot aren't. I have a college degree in English and I honestly do cringe when reading some stories, but I also can see the creativity beneath it (in some cases). The fic author themself may not see their errors, which is no excuse of course, but it I think it's a valid point.

I guess I'd just hate to be the one to tell someone they suck as a writer and should never post anything again, because we never know what the future holds for that person and their skill.

I agree that constructive criticism is defenitely the better way to go, but in most cases, a lot of fics end up just falling off the face of the Earth before they ever see any change, despite being the recipient of either flames or constructive criticism. I can't think of one Fic that took it's criticism and made an auspicious change because of it.I agree with your statement here even more. It takes a certain type of person to be a writer, because you are constantly dealing with criticism, constructive or otherwise, from outside sources. For most, any hint of negativity turns them away. They either choose to ignore it, or cower in shame feeling humiliated and never write again. Writing is NOT for everyone.

Devious One
04-05-2006, 10:25 AM
*Raises hand*
I didn't love it. That's not to say I hate it or anything but I just wanted to make clear my stance on the story before anyone did that for me. Overall it was an interesting and fairly entertaining read but once I finished it I realized that there were (IIRC) 3 things I didn't like about it. One was the 3 obstacles Zedd made Tommy face. They were presented as though they were 3 mystifying puzzles he had to solve or 3 journey's he had to make, but all they ended up being were 3 random fights against 3 random monsters that TOmmy had killed at least once before in the past. The other things I didn't like were the drawn out death of Zordon and Kimberly and Billy's completely and utterly random and out of the blue hook up at the end. The rest was better.
Okay, color me corrected. You are the only one so far to actually criticize any part of it. All my emails and posts in the thread of the novel had nothing but positive feedback on it, so I just assumed that everybody who read it liked it. I shouldn't have made that assumption. Of course there are going to be people who don't like it. Anyways, just wanted to say that. Later.