Possible DekaWingRobo in America Proof

[JDF'd]

I searched, I saw nothing on this, so I'll post. If I'm wrong... my bad.

So we all know that Bandai Creations makes those stupid remote control rangers on bikes. I saw a new one today for Omega. On the back I saw a different set of pictures for the SPD van thingy. It showed how it folded out. While folded out, it showed a cycle on platforms on either side of the van, an ATV in the middle, and it the back where three Megazords. From back to front were Cycle Max Megazord, Delta Squad Megazord, and - you guessed it - DekaWingRobo!

I'm not going to say this is 100% proof but it's the only lead we have to go on. I didn't have my camera with me and it's from a TRU nowhere near where I live so you'll just have to take my word for it. If you don't... eh, whatever.

[Slepnir]

I would certainly bet that we're getting DekaWing, especially from, wherever it was that said "Supreme Megazord".

[Jerry]

I take your word on it for one reason. A pic similar to the one you speak of has been on Bandai Business's site since it updated for SPD.

[Taichi]

Interesting... I still don't see why people don't think we'll be getting it.

Bandai may have short changed us on a few things... i.e. - -

*Trans Warp Megazord
*Zords like the Cephala and the Wild Force Zords
*Brachio

...but for the most part Bandai has released all the "Megazords", we even got the Blizzard Force eventhough it was repainted.

Bandai will release it.

[UncleBoris]

I'm not trying to be a jerk, or start an argument or anything, but was it ever really in question that we would or would not be getting a US version of DekaWingRobo? I mean, I can understand BA not releasing DeakBase, since it's freaking huge and would cost quite a bit, but when was the last time we only got two of the "main" megazords used on the show?

[grnrngr]

The issue with DekaWingRobo it the fact that it is, in one mode, a very black gun, which is a large issue with US toy laws.

If it's gonna be released (and I have no intention on commenting on that or not -- as most people just bitch when I do), it will almost certinaly have to be modified in some way, paint-wise.

I'd recommend the Japanese version if you can afford/find one.

[MarZeo]

...wouldn't it suffice to just not mention the gun mode anywhere on the american packaging? It's not that obvious a configuration.

[JDF'd]

The repaint has always been a bigger question to me than the actual release. But even in that picture it was not repainted. If it isn't released within the next month of so, I'll just buy a DekaWingRobo.

...I have my DekaBaseRobo already so I'm happy.

[lonewolf]

The issue with DekaWingRobo it the fact that it is, in one mode, a very black gun, which is a large issue with US toy laws.

If it's gonna be released (and I have no intention on commenting on that or not -- as most people just bitch when I do), it will almost certinaly have to be modified in some way, paint-wise.

I'd recommend the Japanese version if you can afford/find one.
how would that mode make it un fit for kids because they released the delta blasters and they are guns

[grnrngr]

The repaint has always been a bigger question to me than the actual release. But even in that picture it was not repainted. If it isn't released within the next month of so, I'll just buy a DekaWingRobo.

...I have my DekaBaseRobo already so I'm happy.

Yeah, but do promotional pictures ever truly match the final product? "Colors may vary" as they say.

how would that mode make it un fit for kids because they released the delta blasters and they are guns

Did you read the word "black" or just choose to ignore it?

[SPDSlipstreamRanger]

Yeah, but do promotional pictures ever truly match the final product? "Colors may vary" as they say.


thats a question ive always wondered why havnt BA been charged or sued for wrongful advertisment ?

its like the thunder morpher they pictured the BJ gouraijer changer but in the end we got a stretched morpher, ah well, still im surprised no one has tried to sue them for wrongful advertisment.

[turbo409uk]

The issue with DekaWingRobo it the fact that it is, in one mode, a very black gun, which is a large issue with US toy laws.

Is this because of problems with Megatron when it was originally released?

[grnrngr]

Is this because of problems with Megatron when it was originally released?

The same law, yes.

[grnrngr]

thats a question ive always wondered why havnt BA been charged or sued for wrongful advertisment ?

its like the thunder morpher they pictured the BJ gouraijer changer but in the end we got a stretched morpher, ah well, still im surprised no one has tried to sue them for wrongful advertisment.

Because the judge would laugh at them and say "didn't you read the fine print that's on the package, like 99% of all US toys?"

[SPDSlipstreamRanger]

Because the judge would laugh at them and say "didn't you read the fine print that's on the package, like 99% of all US toys?"

the colours may vary one ?

yea but still, you could come back with thats just the colours wtf about the actually item i can understand it being different colours but it is cleary wrongful advertisment that the item is in no shape or form to what you get inside

[StarFighters76]

The same law, yes.

A stupid law at that. It supports idiots for not having common sense. See, look at DekaWingRobo (or as I call it, the Delta Wing Megazord) in it's gun mode. Does it really look like a real gun? If cops can not tell the difference between that and a real gun, especially if it's everso obvious, then they need to get some common sense put into them.

[The Real Torhu]

...wouldn't it suffice to just not mention the gun mode anywhere on the american packaging? It's not that obvious a configuration.

It'd unfortunately still be there. And if the wrong parent group/lawyer discovered a "hidden" gun-mode, there'd be hell to pay.

They'd be better off biting the bullet and putting some brighter colors on there. They chould put it somewhere on the Red Zord, or whatever makes up the handle,trigger.

[The Real Torhu]

If cops can not tell the difference between that and a real gun, especially if it's everso obvious, then they need to get some common sense put into them.

The problem is, much like the original Megatron, if you're not close enough, you're going to see a person holding a gun shaped object. And in that situation, you're not going to take the time to go up and ask: "Say can I get a good look at that?"

Hell, I'm surprised more criminals haven't staretd paiting or adding bright colors to their guns when they commit crimes.

[Saturn]

I'm not american and this may seem a stupid question, but what's the big deal with a black toy gun??

[The Real Torhu]

I'm not american and this may seem a stupid question, but what's the big deal with a black toy gun??

In America, it is illegal for toy companies to produce realistic toyguns (or toyguns at all) unless they are brightly colored.

For example, western toy guns usually will have some orange tip on them.

This is supposedly so cops can discern when a real gun is being pointed at them instead of a toy. Until somebody gets smart enough to just PAINT their gun a bright color.

[Saturn]

I get it now. You're probably getting an orange dekawing that shines at night or something like that... yuck! Knowing bandai europe since power rangers came up, they will follow whatever bandai america does. That's quite bad...

[StarFighters76]

The problem is, much like the original Megatron, if you're not close enough, you're going to see a person holding a gun shaped object. And in that situation, you're not going to take the time to go up and ask: "Say can I get a good look at that?"

Well that would be the smart thing to do.

[OmegaRangerRed]

Well that would be the smart thing to do.

um....no....its not (speaking from experience)

[turbulence]

Until somebody gets smart enough to just PAINT their gun a bright color.

Most people brandishing a gun at you want to scare you into cooperating and are not really out to shoot you so that would be counter productive if you aren't scared.

[Topgaler]

Most people brandishing a gun at you want to scare you into cooperating and are not really out to shoot you so that would be counter productive if you aren't scared.Until you shoot at the ceiling with it.

[Cyrax9]

The issue with DekaWingRobo it the fact that it is, in one mode, a very black gun, which is a large issue with US toy laws.

If it's gonna be released (and I have no intention on commenting on that or not -- as most people just bitch when I do), it will almost certinaly have to be modified in some way, paint-wise.

I'd recommend the Japanese version if you can afford/find one.
First to the guy who said the DX Blizzardforce Megazord was a repaint, I'd like to point out it was seen in one scene of the PRDT Finale (Thunder Struck Part 1 IIRC) if I remember correctly, I KNOW it was in ONE episode near the end.a

Second, AHH the INFAMOUS "Orange-Tip" law. Head to www.artasylum.com and click on the "bomb" icon, then SEARCH (Yeah that term we toss around RB all the time) the forums for the words "Phase, Pistol, Orange, and Tip" for some good Rants/Ramblings/Insults/Terroristic threats about the Orange-tip that went on the US Phase Pistol and all but 300 of the UK Models. (If ya have one and you scalp it let me know which appendage you want! ;) ) Long story short, the thing was SHOW-ACCURATE. Although the Phase Pistol is a SILVER Toy Gun it suffers from the fact that some new guns are SILVER and from a distance it could look like an actual firearm. Before someone asks about previous phasers, the FRONT lit up (So does the ArtAss TOS Phaser) and as one person put it "Playmates never made anything that could be deemed a lethal weapon!" -- In essence the toy was Orange-tipped and the guys at ArtAss were kind enough to give us the name of the paint that PARAMOUNT was using on the ORANGE-TIPPED TOYS to due "Dummy Props" for the actual Enterprise SHOW! (Talk about realistic toys as they replaced dummy props on longshots!)

Now why is this relevent? Because the Phase Pistol looks so fake (as in firearm or ray-gun toy) up close that an orange tip seems kind of ridiculous, likewise from a distance it does look a bit like a firearm if you hide the Orange tip and I've actually looked at it from a distance and realized it does have a very "Realistic Gun" look. The issue is that people WILL attempt to rob a bank with a $2 dollar squirt gun painted black! As for why people don't paint orange or red tips on to real guns? Well again as one ArtAss member mentioned, "You'd have to fire it first to proove it was real" although some knucklehead probably is thinking of this scheme as I type this.

In essance if it looks like a gun from a distance, it gets the orange-tip treatment. I will remind people (as I did on the ArtAss boards and others did as well) that orange tips are easily removed or PAINTED OVER if you're worried about something that's fugly, and so far the customs office has no problem importing DX Deka Wing Robo. You can OWN a toy gun painted w/out the orange tip that you A)Import or B)Paint yourself but you will (obviously) be tried for the SAME CRIMES as you would with a REAL gun should you decide to rob a bank/threaten a law enforcement officer with the TOY gun!

What MAY save DekaWing Robo is the fact that although it's primarily black, it's also trimmed with so many colors that it wouldn't look very realistic if R/G/B/Y/P/ trim was easily visible on it!

What Bandai would essentially have to do is to INCLUDE decals -- most likely pre-applied though hence raising the price that would make it look like a toy out of the box. w/the decals applied the "Gun Mode" looks very toy-ish for the most part. The second thing that might be done is "dulling" of the faux-Chrome parts so it didn't look as realistic. Although collectors might get ticked it'd be that or nothing or a large orange part.

If BanDai did avoid severe alterations or even releasing this thing and didn't mention the "gun mode" they could probably argue "coincidence" in a court case but as a company it'd be better for them to make it clearly a toy. I know it's not what we want to hear, but it's true and John's right, BLACK (and now SILVER) toy guns REALLY worry companies fearing lawsuits and toy safety standards. The Orange-tip law is indeed stupid as if someone waves this thing around from a distance as a real gun they'd be jailed anyway, if they got close enough for someone to say "GUN!" they'd notice the thing is a toy. I won't debate the law though, I did it for a year with the phase pistol fiasco.

Now knowing BanDai they'll want this toy out, they know they'll take a severe hit otherwise, and it's quite possible they'll pull a Blizzard Force Megazord and modify it for the show as well; possibly branding it something like the A-Squad Megazord or some similar name. It's not so much a matter of will Bandai release it as it is will bandai be ALLOWED to release it without heavy alterations. Remember, SPD went way over budget, they need that money back and since a lawsuit would most likely encompass the PR Franchise Di$ney would be on the name of the lawsuit as well and anyone who's seen a Disney lawsuit knows that "Mickey Rat" has good lawyers and has gotten away with more Murders than OJ Simpson! The jury's they get are just as bad and any damage to Bandai would be shared by Disney, the parent company for BA, and most likely wouldn't be as much of a problem as it was in the Saban days. Di$ney tosses money around like trash, BA is owned by Disney (see their about us page) and while they could probably find a way to rip out the "gun mode" if need be, I think this toy will be released in some form.

Also, the Orange-tip law is responsible for the bright Orange NIntendo "ZAPPER" Light-guns that hurt my eyes to look at! Thankfully I have the classic grey one, this law is a problem for toy companies but then until some jackass starts painting real guns orange we're going to have to deal or learn how to customize here guys.

[FirePhoenix]

hopefully they will release dekawing robo in america cause they use guns in the show the blasters as well as some of the generals like benagg they just use bright lights then bullets

[grnrngr]

Cyrax, you have come a long way. I enjoy your lengthy diatribes these days, as they actually explain things a lot better than I do because I don't take the time to do so.

Kudos.

[StarFighters76]

First to the guy who said the DX Blizzardforce Megazord was a repaint, I'd like to point out it was seen in one scene of the PRDT Finale (Thunder Struck Part 1 IIRC) if I remember correctly, I KNOW it was in ONE episode near the end.


Actually the Blizzard Force Megazord (though not named in the series) was in the episode "A Test Of Trust" :)

[The Real Torhu]

If BanDai did avoid severe alterations or even releasing this thing and didn't mention the "gun mode" they could probably argue "coincidence" in a court case but as a company it'd be better for them to make it clearly a toy.

The problem there is the mode is there, and WAS there in the Japanese release. The toy can do it, and they knew about it. Hiding the gun mode would not be a wise move. Since they can't argue they didn't know about it.

[Magic Force]

But they can't make it an "evil zord" like they did with Blizzard Force megazord since they'll have absolutely no footage of Wing Robo fighting Delta Squad or Dekabike. So if they change anything, I bet they'll make it silver or white.

I HOPE they make it silver or white if they can't make it black.

~MF~