Morphing Grid

[PRangerX]

My friend Ross has started a new site called the Morphing Grid. It is a new site so don't expect much matieral yet. I think he plans on making it mostly a news site till he can assemble a staff. He used to run a DT website that I plan to archive for him in the near future.

I figured I'd plug it here for him.

http://morphinggrid.com

[PhantomRanger]

nice site, bad name.

[grnrngr]

Do you and your punk friends have ANY ORIGINALITY AT ALL?

Try coming up with an original title, and stop mooching off of your PR-fandom elders.

[jzt45]

Hey genius if you can read it says inspired by the original morphing grid. I'm not knocking Manny in any way, everthing will have original content.

[Imperiosity]

Hey genius if you can read it says inspired by the original morphing grid. I'm not knocking Manny in any way, everthing will have original content.

Who cares if it's inspired by the original? Are there not enough words in the friggin' English language to not be able to come up with an original name or something? And fine if you want to be uninspired and use a name belonging to one of the great former sites of this webdom, but for crying out loud, make it your own site and don't come out and say that it's going to live up to the original, because you know what? It won't.

And I don't think he'd be getting as much flack about it had it not been the *second* site he's done that too..

[PRangerX]

John you can take all your anger out on me as much as you want but please don't take it out on Jzt451. He is innocent in all this. I made this plug on my own since he told me he was opening the site, he never told me to do it. This is his own site and nothing to do with mine except for the fact that he links to my link exchange. Ross is a nice guy and hasn't made waves in the fandom like myself or RangerKing have. So he doesn't derseve your critisim. I don't mind when you attack me but not my friend, he is a good guy. He was inspired by the Morphing Grid but decided to forgo using Manny's content since that would have been web thievery. He is making his own orginal site. Its not like anyone can't use the name morphing grid. I mean Micheal B called the pr section of supersentai.com that until Ray gave him PRC. Anyone could have come up with a name the Morphing Grid.

Imperosity you missunderstand. I have nothing to do with this site. I was merely pluging a friends site. Ross had nothing to do with the plug I was just trying to help him out. He isn't stealing from Manny all his content is going to be orginal. You can be mad at me don't take it out on him, he is a nice guy.

[jzt45]

Who cares if it's inspired by the original? Are there not enough words in the friggin' English language to not be able to come up with an original name or something? And fine if you want to be uninspired and use a name belonging to one of the great former sites of this webdom, but for crying out loud, make it your own site and don't come out and say that it's going to live up to the original, because you know what? It won't.

And I don't think he'd be getting as much flack about it had it not been the *second* site he's done that too..


First he has nothing to do with my site. Second where in the hell did I say it would be better than Mannys? I didn't so until you know what the hell your talking about STFU.

[grnrngr]

What ever happen to people having nice, new, original ideas?

[jzt45]

Look people it's aname that's all nothing from him at all. Look if Manny himself comes back & tells me to drop it then I'll drop it, but until then I am keeping it.

[PRangerX]

Ok guys me and John reached an agreement. Everything is cool. I felt responsible, since I am the one who posted this without asking my friend. Its all a missunderstanding that has been resolved.

[Ray-Z]

These guys are right PRX, you are a complete and total web-whore.

[PRangerX]

Well Ray, Ross agreed to remove the link and any mention of Manny's site. Ross is producing orginal content and never met too steal the morphing grid. I was simply pluging Ross's site here since he was opening it. Ross is a nice guy and doesn't try to steal the spotlight at all. I gave him bad advice to put the link to Manny's site there. But its old news now since John has no problem with my friend running the site as long as it claims no affliation to the old grid. Their is bound to be some name repeating in this fandom. Look at PRO, I have run into a few sites with that name. Micheal B. called the Power Rangers section of supersentai.com morphing grid when it was up. Plus its not like Manny's site owned that particular domain. Don't worry Ross won't be stealing any material from Manny. He is a good guy and doesn't deserve to be associated with my bad reputation. But your attacking me so I guess there isn't a problem.

[jzt45]

Will someone please tell me why they thought I was stealing? I mean it was just a link with nothing meant buy it.

[Titaniumblue]

NIce site dude.

[Michael B]

Don't plug me into this my short lived PR section was called Morphin Grid misspelled on purpose due to the lack of a better name.

[PRangerX]

Sorry, Micheal I was just trying to make a piont that just because someone has a similar name doesn't mean they are trying to steal a site's legacy. I know that short lived section was meant to have nothing to do with Manny' site. I wasn't trying to drag you into this. This is all a mute piont anyway, Ross removed the Link and John is fine with that. This is a new power rangers site not a continuation of Manny's Morphing Grid.

[grnrngr]

Will someone please tell me why they thought I was stealing? I mean it was just a link with nothing meant buy it.

Oh that's easy.

You ripped off the name.

How would you feel if I started posting on some other board as jzt45 and destroying any reputation you might have?

And, now, to make fun of someone who recently freaked out:

PRX -- DON'T USE MY REAL NAME!!!!!1!!!!111!!!!!one!!!! ;)

[jzt45]

I could careless if you used my name. It's a domain name if he says he wants it i'll give it to him. Just cause I used morphinggrid.com doesn't make me a theif. Domain names get reused all the time.

[PRangerX]

PRX -- DON'T USE MY REAL NAME!!!!!1!!!!111!!!!!one!!!! ;)[/QUOTE]

I thought grnrnger was your real name, I just made John up to sound cool :)

[Imperiosity]

I could careless if you used my name. It's a domain name if he says he wants it i'll give it to him. Just cause I used morphinggrid.com doesn't make me a theif. Domain names get reused all the time.

Yes, but see, most people who purchase a domain name to use for their site do not use it in the same context that it was used in before. There are exceptions, say, when I (had, previously) purchased erin-cahill.com for Erin's site to point to erincahill.com to pick up all of the dead links laying around to Michael Wayne's old fan site for her, but that's not exactly the same kind of situation as this..

Take for example this.. when I had my Time Force site up, I wanted the domain silver-hills.com to go with the one I had for my Lightspeed Rescue site, mariner-bay.com. Thing was (and still is), silver-hills.com is used by a church, so I had to go with .net. Two entirely different things, to say the least, but for all intents and purposes, same domain (practically..).

You make distinct mention of Manny's site on your own, so it's pretty plain to see that that's why you chose that name. You can refute it all you want, but you know you chose that name to awaken some sort of nostalgia within the webdom and get people to visit your site, otherwise, you'd have used your brain and come up with something original to make your own mark with - not borrow someone else's.

[jzt45]

Yes, but see, most people who purchase a domain name to use for their site do not use it in the same context that it was used in before. There are exceptions, say, when I (had, previously) purchased erin-cahill.com for Erin's site to point to erincahill.com to pick up all of the dead links laying around to Michael Wayne's old fan site for her, but that's not exactly the same kind of situation as this..

Take for example this.. when I had my Time Force site up, I wanted the domain silver-hills.com to go with the one I had for my Lightspeed Rescue site, mariner-bay.com. Thing was (and still is), silver-hills.com is used by a church, so I had to go with .net. Two entirely different things, to say the least, but for all intents and purposes, same domain (practically..).

You make distinct mention of Manny's site on your own, so it's pretty plain to see that that's why you chose that name. You can refute it all you want, but you know you chose that name to awaken some sort of nostalgia within the webdom and get people to visit your site, otherwise, you'd have used your brain and come up with something original to make your own mark with - not borrow someone else's.


Looking back it probably the best idea to use the, but that being said on my splash pg it says the new morphing grid. I have also taken the link off that page you won't find any mention of Mannys site on mine. I never meant it to look like I was disgracing or stealing from him I just thought it would be nice to have a new up to date one.

[grnrngr]

And, there you go claiming that Manny's site is outdated and that yours is the replacement.

Your site is doomed.

[jzt45]

That's not what I meant. Mannys site has been down since what Turbo? So of course it's not up to date that's what I meant I am never gonna win.

On a side not where is he now? To bad we just can't get him to come back & settle this

[grnrngr]

Manny retired.

If he wanted someone else to run his site or use it's name, he would've left it to someone when he left.

[jzt45]

My point is though weaher you think I am tryin to be a theif or not it was bought fair & square

[PRangerX]

Yeah guys its all a mute piont anyway. Ross took down the link and isn't gonna even make any mention of Manny. You see I told him to put the link there, I thought it would be a cool mention of the fandom's history. So if you are mad at anyone be mad at me. But the link is gone now anyway.

Also Ross was orginally going to use a subdomain, I am the one that convinced him to buy the morphing grid domain (On a side note Manny never actually owned the domain). I wasn't trying to convince him to steal from Manny but again be mad at me not him.

No harm was done anyway, all mention of Manny's site has been deleted and the site is still young so any new visiters will not get any bad impressions. Ross will not profit from Manny's legacy at all and has rely on what he will create. Since Manny never owned the domain its not like he will gain anything from it ( dead links ect.). So I think this argument is over nothing at this piont.

If you want to continue it do so in my sites thread since I am taking responsibilty for the link.

[Imperiosity]

Yeah guys its all a mute piont anyway.

It's "moot," not mute..

And this never had anything to do with the domain name itself. True, Manny never owned it or used it, but it is what it is. I don't think he'd have gotten nearly as much flack had the site been named one thing, and he used morphinggrid.com as its domain; I see nothing wrong with that. Otherwise, it's just complete and total lack of creativity, a phenomenon which seems to be plaguing this webdom nowadays.

[jzt45]

Would it make everyone happy if I renamed it & just used the domain?

[PRangerX]

Well I think people wouldn't have got as mad if the site was named Morphing Grid but had no mention of Manny's site at all (again I take respnsibilty for given that bad advice). There are a lot of people in the fandom that may not have been around during the grid's heyday. Ross can change his name if he wants but I think you guys should just relax. I mean its already clear this is going to be a orginial site with no affliation to Manny's. I mean you have to admit Morphing Grid is actually a name that would be attractive to future webmasters, especially ones with no Knowledge Of Manny's site. I could see your piont if Ross literally posted Manny's content but as you can see the site itself is brand new.

I mean if someone came out with a site called PROA with its own orginal content that person wouldn't be stealing.

[PRangerX]

I have an idea, why doesn't Ross just change the name to the Power Rangers Morphing Grid, than it sounds different enough from Manny's site and goes with the domain at the same time.

[grnrngr]

Can't this guy defend himself?

Because his lawyer stinks.

[jzt45]

I've tried to but everytime I do you people come right back & continue to call me a thief. Even though their isn't a damn thing from Manny's on mine. If you don't like it well don't visit & as & far as I am concerned you can take your ideas about me & stick'em where the sun doesn't shine.

[PRangerX]

I feel responsible for this thats why I am so vocal. I don't want to see my friend hurt because I made this thread.

[wildranger]

sweet

[SnoopsWarner]

I like all the PR logos on the opening page. It's as if it's all the logos stolen from PRC and then put on your site.

Oh wait.. that's what it is, isnt it?

[PRangerX]

Ross doesn't use pics from PRC. He gets his pics from places like RangerGallery. Micheal B runs RG and told me that was partly what the place was for. If they were from PRC Micheal would have Ross shut down since he owns the server. I mean its quite possible the logos would look similar to the ones at PRC since the logos have the same look ( at least the ones that resemble the offical logos). I assure you Ross did not steal from PRC or any other site were it wasn't permitted to use pics. Trust me Snoops, Ross is a good guy and isn't a web thief. I just gave him some bad advice about putting the url to the archive of the old morphing grid up. He respects Manny's work and is in no way trying to copy him.

[jzt45]

I have stated before ALL my cotent is original.

[SnoopsWarner]

Lies, I tell you, Lies!

Not that I give a crap, but that's simply not true. It's easy to tell too. Look at the PRiS logo- it has a blue background. That shows that it's from the first press or toy release, before it was changed to a black starfield background. Look at the PRWF logo- it has the Saban's logo on it. This was only ever present in the first press release sheet, as it was a Disney production after that. These were PRC images, and still are to this day. All of the season logos are PRC images.

Dont try to kid a kidder.

[PRangerX]

Well if that is the case a lot more people than Ross are using them. This could be the case of someone posting them at Ranger Gallery and Ross finding them there. Honestly there are a lot of sites in the fandom that use the official logos.

[SnoopsWarner]

Yes, I know. But beleive it or not, RangerGallery is more of a depository of all the pictures trawled from every other PR website, rather than a source of original material.

Not to be nitpicky, but do "pictures from RG" constitute originality?

[PRangerX]

Yeah thats the problem with Ranger Gallery I guess. I use it too on my own site but clearly state that a lot of my pics are from there and have my picks link to the RG ( I do the same with your pics at the viewing globe since you said webmasters could use them as long as we give you credit). But that has more to do with my own site. Anyway it is unfortunate such repetiveness is done at these galleries. But it is the best most webmaster have to work with sometimes. Some webmasters aren't good with graphics nor have the means to upload them. So they have to rely on the places that allow for graphic borrowing.

[RangerKing2.0]

Ross got the pics from me. I got them from RangerGallery and it was PhoenixRanger I believe who uploaded them to RangerGallery.

[SnoopsWarner]

Yeah thats the problem with Ranger Gallery I guess. I use it too on my own site but clearly state that a lot of my pics are from there and have my picks link to the RG ( I do the same with your pics at the viewing globe since you said webmasters could use them as long as we give you credit). But that has more to do with my own site. Anyway it is unfortunate such repetiveness is done at these galleries. But it is the best most webmaster have to work with sometimes. Some webmasters aren't good with graphics nor have the means to upload them. So they have to rely on the places that allow for graphic borrowing.

Speaking of the Viewing Globe, all that stuff is temporerly offline as the server was impounded by the FBI (nothing to do with me, probably) and I cancelled my account with them to go to another host...

[jzt45]

Look if I swiped any of them & I don't think I did. I am sorry.

[Imperiosity]

Look if I swiped any of them & I don't think I did. I am sorry.

Uh.. how can you not be positive, one way or the other? I can tell you exactly where I got all of my sites' images from.. because they're all mine.

[PRangerX]

I agree its better to make your own images Will but some webmasters don't have good enough resources for that. I don't advocate web theivery but there is nothing wrong with using a public gallery that allows pics to be borrowed. Now if a webmaster steps in and wants there pics removed than I would say that is their right to have them removed. Ross isn't doing anything wrong. He is a very humble guy and isn't looking to bring attention to himself. He just enjoys designing webpages. In the end thats what really matters. If you really don't like his site than you don't have to visit it.

[jzt45]

Uh.. how can you not be positive, one way or the other? I can tell you exactly where I got all of my sites' images from.. because they're all mine.


The reason I said that is cuz I know they didn't come from RC. They came from RG, but I can't say they didn' get them from RC

[Imperiosity]

I don't advocate web theivery but there is nothing wrong with using a public gallery that allows pics to be borrowed.

Except that I see a lot of my sites' graphics end up in these galleries somehow, in addition to my screen captures. There seems to be no screening process whatsoever. I don't usually have a problem with people using my screen captures, but I do like to be asked first, and these galleries that allow whoever-the-heck to upload whatever they want are breaking down the moral fiber of this web community. It's a convenient way to avoid asking permission from the original owner.

[PRangerX]

Yeah I understand your arguement Will. I really do, its too bad there isn't a screening process at RG. Maybe if Micheal could recruit enough administrators with experiance in the fandom like you, they could delete all the repetive images. I know Micheal was planning on deleting all the images from PRC anyway. For my own site I went the longest time without adding any images since I didn't want to be a web thieve. Even when Micheal told me that was what the site was for I still hesitated. But I got tired of my site being bland so I decided to go for it. But if I find some of these pictures are from other sites, I plan on taking them down and replacing them since I am not out to be a web theive. But thats with my own site and nothing to do with this one. I don't think repetive logos are a big deal though since its not like the logos are going to look much different anyway.