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cammy85
10-14-2004, 12:19 AM
Sweeet!!! Not that Thunder Storm was bad or anything, but this includes that "Zord" battle that was cool to watch (at times). I still think the Ultimate Ninja should've been used as a mutated Lothor, but oh well. I'm just as happy with the American version except for the reason above.

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Poweranimals
10-14-2004, 12:25 AM
Sweeet!!! Not that Thunder Storm was bad or anything, but this includes that "Zord" battle that was cool to watch (at times). I still think the Ultimate Ninja should've been used as a mutated Lothor, but oh well. I'm just as happy with the American version except for the reason above.

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I really hate it when people use something that happened in the Sentai version for them to have a problem with Power Rangers.

"Thunder Storm" was made independently apart from any need of Aba vs Hurri footage. The episode didn't need a Zord battle, and a Zord battle would've just taken up more time, which they didn't have anyway.

Now, I haven't seen Abaranger vs Hurricanger, but I haven't heard much praise. Nor have I heard anyone defend it to "Thunder Storm". If Hurricanger vs Gaoranger is a high standard for Sentai teamups, I'm sure "Thunder Storm" blew it away.

SPDekaranger
10-14-2004, 12:45 AM
I really hate it when people use something that happened in the Sentai version for them to have a problem with Power Rangers.

"Thunder Storm" was made independently apart from any need of Aba vs Hurri footage. The episode didn't need a Zord battle, and a Zord battle would've just taken up more time, which they didn't have anyway.

Now, I haven't seen Abaranger vs Hurricanger, but I haven't heard much praise. Nor have I heard anyone defend it to "Thunder Storm". If Hurricanger vs Gaoranger is a high standard for Sentai teamups, I'm sure "Thunder Storm" blew it away.
That's because Sentai is Gay. :rolleyes:

I like both of them, IMO.

Poweranimals
10-14-2004, 12:51 AM
That's because Sentai is Gay. Glad to see you finally admitted the truth.

TPV3 Version 2
10-14-2004, 12:56 AM
I just enjoyed Hurri vs. Gao because of the zord fight really. Hurri vs. Aba was kinda disappointing, except of course for the return of Shurikenger. That was the whole fucking team-up, heh.

cammy85
10-14-2004, 01:04 AM
I really hate it when people use something that happened in the Sentai version for them to have a problem with Power Rangers.

"Thunder Storm" was made independently apart from any need of Aba vs Hurri footage. The episode didn't need a Zord battle, and a Zord battle would've just taken up more time, which they didn't have anyway.

Now, I haven't seen Abaranger vs Hurricanger, but I haven't heard much praise. Nor have I heard anyone defend it to "Thunder Storm". If Hurricanger vs Gaoranger is a high standard for Sentai teamups, I'm sure "Thunder Storm" blew it away.

"Time For Lightspeed" didn't includse the Zord battle with Quarganon either, but I've never seen it or its Sentai counterpart, so whatever. But like I said, Thunder Storm was awesome for an all-American footage teamup. Of course, if they HAD included that Zord battle, it would've taken up ten minutes (even without the Dino Stegazord fight).

Scitek
10-14-2004, 02:50 AM
Thunder Storm was awesome for an all-American footage teamup.

The American footage in DT has always looked better than the Abaranger footage, in my opinion...

Poweranimals
10-14-2004, 02:55 AM
The American footage in DT has always looked better than the Abaranger footage, in my opinion...
Exactly.

Gouraijer
10-14-2004, 08:47 AM
The robo battle wasn't that good so I didn't have to see it.
I don't see the appeal in Lothor transforming into a full costumed monster. It didn't work that well for Scorpina, either.

Grimm
10-14-2004, 09:26 AM
The American footage in DT has always looked better than the Abaranger footage, in my opinion...

In some cases but not all. I think PR overdoes it with all the slow-mo shots. Alot of the action in Sentai scenes are very fast and graceful. I'm happy with both.

turbulence
10-14-2004, 10:26 AM
First time seeing a Japanese Ranger episode, that was actually really good :)

Tunnel Vision
10-14-2004, 11:37 AM
Sweeet!!! Not that Thunder Storm was bad or anything, but this includes that "Zord" battle that was cool to watch (at times). I still think the Ultimate Ninja should've been used as a mutated Lothor, but oh well. I'm just as happy with the American version except for the reason above.

Abaranger and Hurricanger was okay, but definitely lacked the "WOW" factor of Thunder Storm. Besides they already tried that mutated monster thing, watch the Lightspeed Galaxy teamup, which used Sentai footage. It always ends up being a edited water down version of the actual Sentai fight.

That's why the American footage is much better this season than the Abaranger footage, at least when they shoot their own, it can go with the characters they are making, not the ones Abaranger is making.

MJC
10-14-2004, 12:37 PM
I just watched the DVD last night as part of my Abaranger marathon (only 10 episodes to go... *cries*) It had some cool stuff, but the story felt very by the numbers really. I mean, I suppose the DT team-up was a bit by-the-numbers, but atleast there were a bunch on mini-plots going on to keep it interesting.

Aba V Hurri was definitely a let down after the fantasticness of the arc that came before it (The stuff with Asuka/Mahoro Mikoto/Rizye), the overly sentimental ending scene with the flashes of each character's face also made me feel quite ill. The first zord battle was cool, though a bit disconcerting that Max Ryouh (or however you spell it, I think the US version is called the Triceramax Megazord) got taken down, I'm glad the US version didn't feature that as I alwasy figured it as being pretty much indestructable. I think my favourite parts were the scenes with the Evolians and Mikoto, and just Mikoto in particular, as he's just very cool ;) The end credits are always fun though! "Aba aba aba aba abaranger!..."

All in all, I preferred the US version, it just seemed bigger and bolder and better crafted.

Mike

Yamcha
10-14-2004, 10:23 PM
To me Thunder Storm, believe it or not, had nicer little character moments. It also seemed to me that there was more interaction, even if it was mostly mind-control. And having Marah and Kapri be good all along, imo, beats having their Sentai counterparts returning from Hell. Yeah, it was by-the-numbers, but that's how many PR or Sentai team ups are anyway, so I excuse that, and I look at both as how they are in terms of popcorn entertainment. And Conner calling everyone to morph just had more conviction than when Ryoga did it.

I think it almost goes without saying that the unmorphed fighting in Thunder Storm was miles ahead of Aba Vs. Hurri. That's still what impresses me the most about the crossover. The Aba Vs. Hurri unmorphed fight scenes were pretty good and fairly brutal (the impalement, the 'spinal tap,' etc), but the Thunder Storm fight was just better paced and more rapid-fire, I think. It was more along the veins of something like the Storm Riders-lite.

The morphed fighting in Aba Vs. Hurri is a personal favorite of mine. I got a kick of the Wind Rangers riding the Abarangers (yeah yeah, insert joke here), and I'm not a big fan of all the motorbike fighting in DT. I was surprised at how well the music in the Sentai matched up with the direction and choreography, and I love the first two fights (Brachio/AbaBlue/Hurricane Yellow, and the Goureijer Vs. Abarekiller). Also, I do wish that the Super Dino Victory cannon made it to PR.

I'll say it now: I really liked the first zord fight. Again, matches with the music and BrachioRanger once again gets his ass handed to him. The second zord fight wasn't that bad, and at first I thought the Thunder-Wind Megazord (or whatever the hell you call it) had jobbed, but then again the thing would've been too slow to dodge the blast in the first place. The crucial scene took wayyy too long to do, though.

To counter the zord scenes, Thunder Storm had the Mesogog Vs. Lothor showdown. Me, I love cross-pollination. It looked like Lothor was trying to pull off the wire-fu in an enclosed space. But since quarters are close, Mesogog did the smart thing and brought the fight to grappling and mind control. It was just a mess of a throwdown, and a really really good one at that. A little brief, but imo it beats the second zord fight in the Sentai, no questions asked.

In my mind, I call it a tie, but for completely different reasons, really. There are just some things that PR does better than Sentai and vice-versa.

ForeverVince
10-14-2004, 10:33 PM
Abaranger Vs. Hurricanger just felt like a longer, stretched-out version of a regular episode, which is the exact opposite of what it should have been.

RangerFan
10-14-2004, 10:47 PM
I really hate it when people use something that happened in the Sentai version for them to have a problem with Power Rangers.

Does anybody else realize what PA just said?

Scitek
10-14-2004, 10:58 PM
PA is right. If people use something involving the storyline of Sentai as a reason for them to be unhappy with PR, it's stupid. He isn't saying that you can't dislike the footage, but that the stories of the two shows are completely unrelated and therefore one should not be held accountable for the content of the other.

Ninja
10-14-2004, 11:05 PM
I hate zord fights. I wouldn't care if they got rid of them entirely.

SPDekaranger
10-14-2004, 11:54 PM
Be glad that there was no Zord battle in Thunder Storm. And I agree with you, Ninja.

Yamcha
10-15-2004, 01:59 AM
PA is right. If people use something involving the storyline of Sentai as a reason for them to be unhappy with PR, it's stupid. He isn't saying that you can't dislike the footage, but that the stories of the two shows are completely unrelated and therefore one should not be held accountable for the content of the other.

Which is weird, considering that many people consider Thunder Storm's story to be stronger than Aba Vs. Hurri, even for a teamup.

Scitek
10-15-2004, 05:35 AM
I actually am not a big fan of zord fights, either. That is one aspect of the show that really makes me feel like I'm watching a toy commercial. :)

Yamcha
10-15-2004, 09:37 AM
I actually am not a big fan of zord fights, either. That is one aspect of the show that really makes me feel like I'm watching a toy commercial. :)

What, and two Battlizers is okay? :)

Well, I think Shane's looks like it's strong enough to go up against the likes of Iron Man. Conner's... well, watching it in action DOES make it feel like I'm watching a toy commercial.

turbulence
10-15-2004, 10:32 AM
I loved watching the zord battle in the Japanese version I was really disappointed there were no zords in Thunderstorm. The zords are like the best part of the show!

Poweranimals
10-15-2004, 12:18 PM
What, and two Battlizers is okay? :)
There's only one per season.

RangerFan
10-15-2004, 04:31 PM
There's only one per season.

Technically, there's only been three Battlizers.

I hate zord fights. I wouldn't care if they got rid of them entirely.

I wouldn't mind them so much if they were longer than 30 seconds.

Yamcha
10-16-2004, 04:43 AM
There's only one per season.

I was talking about this last team-up. I was just talking about both Shane's and Conner's in comparison in the same post.