View Full Version : ReproLabels: Megazord And The Cheaper Alternative
Armed TyrannoRanger
12-19-2007, 03:56 PM
Should reprolabels offer an honest to god Daizyujin conversion kit consisting of only the stickers that Bandai JP gave Daizyujin but not Megazord?
I mean not every sticker but say the correct shoulder stickers for the mastadon, the right solar panel for the pteradactyl, the appropriate sides for sabertooth tiger and triceratops, the rcorrectt leg stickers for the T-Rex? Seems that could be one sheet.
Seems if someone bought a new megazord and only needed alternative stickers instead of total replacements, this would be a cool option or if they own a pristine one.
Don't know if it would screw over reprolabels, but I was just thinking...
Green~Dragon
12-19-2007, 04:05 PM
No. Because when people buy them they can replace the stickers all together to better the condition. . .
Philminder
12-19-2007, 04:24 PM
No. Because when people buy them they can replace the stickers all together to better the condition. . .
But the point is that some people just want to replace the incorrect stickers. Personally that's what I would like to do because all of my original stickers are in fine condition. But I don't mind picking up a whole new set, since I can use those as backups or sell them to someone if they're just looking for certain ones.
I think it would be a good idea. A lot of people really can't afford a Daizyujin, and if they could just pick up a sticker sheet that will practically turn their Megazord into one, that's great.
Wing Knight
12-19-2007, 10:01 PM
I think it would be a good idea. A lot of people really can't afford a Daizyujin, and if they could just pick up a sticker sheet that will practically turn their Megazord into one, that's great.
The only problem with that though is distinguishing the real Daizyujin from a Megazord with the Daizyujin reprolabels stickers on them, like (if hypothetically) someone was selling on ebay or even here a "Daizyujin" out of box that is really just a converted Megazord...unless they are that different from the real ones, but I personally don't know how they compare.
Ah, but then that comes down to how trustworthy certain people are. If the stickers are that good though (making the two versions indistinguishable), the goal has been reached. The buyer doesn't have to buy an official Daizyujin. And I think if more and more people know about RL, they won't go paying more for a Daizyujin (on eBay) when they can spend much less and have their Megazord practically be the same thing.
Wing Knight
12-20-2007, 12:20 AM
Yeah, personally, I would be satisfied with either a Megazord or Daizyujin. The "stickers" on it don't matter that much to me. I just think it's a cool zord that carries a lot of memories with it regardless of which version it is or stickers it has...I'm still trying to get either one, but I just don't want to pay to much over $100 to get one, so I've lately been bidding on ebay on the Megazord, which I've seen lately go for anywhere from $120-$180 (roughly) depending on the quality of the box and toy. So to me, I don't care, which ever I can get for a better price (in this case it's the Megazord) is the one I want.
$120-$180? Damn, the price has really gone up. You'd be better off just buying a Daizyujin for that price, if you plan to pay that much anyway.
Wing Knight
12-20-2007, 02:59 AM
Yeah, I've bid repeatedly on a bunch of Megazords, but haven't gone over a hundred...that's my max. Unfortunately, I have yet to win one. Unless I absolutely can't get one or the other for cheaper, I may pay more, but for the time being that price is my limit.
Im a huge sentai mecha fan over zords, and seeing as i have every zord/mecha id prefer brand new stickers as complete sets for a lot of mine, the adhesive on stickers just plain wears out and doesnt hold on older toys. Especially the ones which required you putting the stickers on yourself, as opposed to coming with stickers from the factory. The ones you put on yourself start to curl, or just plain dont stick after years and years. Id love to be able to buy complete new sticker sets when possible.
But silly question, why not have both available? full prints, or partial "sentai accuracy only prints" i think both would sell pretty well. Just do separate sheets maybe, one that has only the sentai accuracy decals, and one that has the other duplicate/prexisting/replacement stickers.
ALso for the sentai versus pr toys argument, if the only difference is stickers between the original megazord and the sentai mecha, who cares if its sold as mecha. Honestly, youre already paying for extra show accurate stickers in that case. Its only on some megazords that the diference was only stickers, on most the differences are more than stickers, such as chromed swords, precence of electronics, the face of the black manticore thunderzord being black instead of green (speaking of which id love new eye stickers on that one, i mean honestly who hasnt lost the eye stickers for the manticore zord. Colors are also different on the blue ninja zord, the blue arm for shogunzord, and the white arm instead of pink one. Metallic parts for lost galaxy/wild force, and sheer size for boukenger.
In other words, youre only going to be "duped" into buying a restickered zord on a VERY few zords (megazord, space, maybe delta command center, and even then you were only paying for different stickers anyway. Everything else mecha is much more distinctive/different than its american counterpart.
And like i said, id buy /any/ stickers offered but i think 2 sheet options is best, one sheet for those show accurate stickers only, and a separate sheet that just comes with replacement stickers. That way, everyones happy, the people with curling old stickers, and the collectors who want show accurate ones.
Wing Knight
12-20-2007, 01:31 PM
ALso for the sentai versus pr toys argument, if the only difference is stickers between the original megazord and the sentai mecha, who cares if its sold as mecha.
Um, that's what I was saying...I don't care...I'll take whichever Is cheaper, which version doesn't really matter to me.
ALso for the sentai versus pr toys argument, if the only difference is stickers between the original megazord and the sentai mecha, who cares if its sold as mecha.
Because that's ripping off the buyer. If it's a Megazord, the buyer should be paying the price for a Megazord, not double.
MMPR-TheGreenRanger
12-20-2007, 05:50 PM
ALso for the sentai versus pr toys argument, if the only difference is stickers between the original megazord and the sentai mecha, who cares if its sold as mecha.
People who collect it care. It's not only the stickers, the quality of the toy is also different. Better paint job, better plastic. Compare a Dino Buckler to a Power Morpher, and the difference is obvious.
abaddon5
12-20-2007, 06:30 PM
But still, A LOT of people come on here wanting such-and-such sticker set. Some people back in the day didn't put on stickers, or they're in pretty bad shape. Even though I got my new megazord and Dragonzord MIB, I'll still buy the reprolabels. Why? If you look at the sticker sheet for the Tyrannosaurus, it has additional stickers, as well as "shin armor" that actually goes AROUND the leg like it should. I understand the complaints about the subject, but honestly- you don't want to pay? There's always the alternative: printing the labels from Rangerboard, which is fine, but normal printers have their limits. Resolution isn't as high.
Maybe I'm just being an optimist about it, but I'm glad that reprolabels cares enough to actually make show-accurate stickers.
Is the quality of the plastic, between the original mz and mecha equivalent? or the thundermegazord and mecha equivalent?
ill admit the sticker detail /might/ be noticeable, in terms of foilness, but on solid colors, a solid color is a solid color, resolution isnt going to matter short of looking under a microscope
abaddon5
12-20-2007, 09:07 PM
Is the quality of the plastic, between the original mz and mecha equivalent? or the thundermegazord and mecha equivalent?
ill admit the sticker detail /might/ be noticeable, in terms of foilness, but on solid colors, a solid color is a solid color, resolution isnt going to matter short of looking under a microscope
True about the resolution. But, one thing that I noticed about printing my own labels from the board is that there is A LOT of trial and error. I was running out of ink because of all of the test sheets I had to do, so I took them to my girlfriend's house. Well, that was a disaster because my computer was a dead-on size-match when printing at 14%, but it was WAY too big at 14% on her computer. The repro labels take a lot of the guess work out of the whole customization process.
MMPR-TheGreenRanger
12-20-2007, 09:13 PM
Is the quality of the plastic, between the original mz and mecha equivalent? or the thundermegazord and mecha equivalent?
You're missing the point. If it's Sentai mecha, it should be SOLD AS sentai mecha. If it's a Power Ranger zord, it should be sold as a Power Ranger zord.
There's difference in prices, practically because of value and rarity. It's basically called not ripping people off.
*scratches head* Since when do stickers make something rare? you have two identical pieces of plastic, one has diffferent stickers sold in japan, and one has lame lightning bolt stickers sold in usa. Its still the same toy, only the stickers make it "rare" and since the original mz didnt have foil/shiny stickers, theyre easily reproduced. Im not saying go out and buy repro stickers and sell it at a hyped up price. Im saying, you were ALREADY only paying for stickers for the original megazord, and if the repro labels are duplicates theres no reason to buy the original mecha.
I listed the differences with other mecha that you cant "Fake" with stickers but for the original mz, only a die hard fan would prefer to pay a ridiculous amount for 15 year old original stickers on a japanese toy, instead of buying a new non peeling/curling set of repro stickers that were /basic non shiny foil/ to begin with.
If you saw my collection in its current status youd see the vast majority of my items are mecha, and that i do appreciate quality toys, but in the original mz case, its JUST stickers (and in some cases the sharp pointed chromed sword which was only in the first wave of the mz) ( someone can prove me wrong with first hand info or pictures, feel free !)
Id post newer pictures of my collection but my camera died. Ive replaced a few items with mecha equivalents, and changed out some formations/ultrazords to make room, i refuse to give up my chronological order of 50+ individual standing zord "sets", and thats including some combinations that i had to make because of space limitations. im out of room for everything before lsr,, and just got a dairenoh, havent figured out how to cram it in yet.
DX7879
12-21-2007, 06:56 PM
As cool as it is that reprolabels offers show accurate stickers, I also prefer having just the stickers that were included with the original, plus the stickers that were already applied, such as the original Megazord's shoulder stickers, Triceratops side stickers, etc.
MMPR-TheGreenRanger
12-21-2007, 09:50 PM
*scratches head* Since when do stickers make something rare?
Again, you are missing the point. Something that is Power Rangers should sold or marked as Power Rangers, and the same with Sentai. They have different value! By what your thinking, a Dino Buckler would be the same price as a Power Morpher, which is far from it.
It's rarer because it's older (although only by a year) better quality, and it's the ORIGINAL VERSION of the mega zord. The original will always be worth more than the "re-release" which is technically what the mega zord is, a re-release.
Im not saying go out and buy repro stickers and sell it at a hyped up price. Im saying, you were ALREADY only paying for stickers for the original megazord, and if the repro labels are duplicates theres no reason to buy the original mecha.
I listed the differences with other mecha that you cant "Fake" with stickers but for the original mz, only a die hard fan would prefer to pay a ridiculous amount for 15 year old original stickers on a japanese toy, instead of buying a new non peeling/curling set of repro stickers that were /basic non shiny foil/ to begin with.
I said, im not supporting reselling a reprostickered zord and call it mecha, im saying only a die hard fan would pay extra for a MEGAZORD with japanese stickers, ie a daizyujin. My second point was, id rather have new stickers on the same plastic american toy, than 15 year old ones that are curling/peeling/missing and pay the import fees/shipping. The megazord like all of mmpr, are the SAME except for stickers, and maybe the sword chromed dragonzord tail, and gold chains instead of silver ones on titanus.
I wholeheartedly prefer mecha, the vast majority of my collection is mecha, but thats because after mmpr boa started seriously butchering the line.
i still defy you to tell me the difference between http://ooebihara.sakura.ne.jp/toys/sentai/jyuren/jyu226.jpg and
http://toyslife.zero-yen.com/ebay/081104/081101a.jpg
and tell me any differences other than stickers, and the chrome on dz tail, all of mmpr is the same mold, same color plastic, same electronics.
And a dino buckler is different from a power morpher, its put together differently, the plastic is colored differently, and it comes with a belt clip. However ive seen plenty of modded power morphers sold with the dino buckler clip, go for a LOT, and there are ways to tell if it was a dino buckler or a power morpher, like the way the handle opens up. Thats a completely different case than two identical toys, with only sticker differences!
Tommy5
12-22-2007, 07:07 PM
all I gotta say is that ur getting what u pay for when U buy these, I just put them on my Morpher and they are great, my Morpher looks a lot better than when it had some cheap print-outs on it
Green~Dragon
12-22-2007, 10:22 PM
A dino buckler is different from a power morpher, its put together differently, the plastic is colored differently, and it comes with a belt clip. However ive seen plenty of modded power morphers sold with the dino buckler clip, go for a LOT, and there are ways to tell if it was a dino buckler or a power morpher, like the way the handle opens up. Thats a completely different case than two identical toys, with only sticker differences!
how's it put together differently and colored differently? i just thought the handle/stickers were upside down. . .
Tommy5
12-22-2007, 10:29 PM
yeah thats what I thought too :confused:
The greys a little different (unless im mistaken and for some reason mines a different shade of grey than the dino bucklers ive seen, maybe age/exposure to light/color fading differences) and the handle is upside down that what i meant by put together differently.
Green~Dragon
12-22-2007, 11:02 PM
reasons for your gray being off are . . .
are you in a smoke free home? if yes not that. if no then the smoke damaged it.
Was it outside a lot? or put where sunlight can hit it? if no then not that, if yes then of course the light bleached it.
try cleaning it with water (only if lighter) reprolabels stickers are only 8 dollars. or you can convert it to a gold morpher :D
then theres selling it, which you could always sell to someone like me :023:
whatever the case may be it is highly fixable. . . .unless you just want it like that
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